Whoopi Goldberg Takes Heat after Nasty Exchange with Ann Romney: Whoopi Lays Incorrect Facts

The rule for the TV show, “The View” might be that you should think twice before putting Whoopi Goldberg in the same room as a Republican.   This was the lesson when Whoopi squared off with Republican super-wife Ann Romney.    Goldberg attacked the Romney family patriotism by asking whether or not anyone in their family had ever served in the military.  We’re not sure why she didn’t ask the same of the Obamas, who haven’t served in the military either.

“Now, I believe that your religion doesn’t allow you to go fight,” Goldberg said.

“No, that’s not correct,” Romney responded. “We have many, many members of our faith that are serving in armed services.”

“OK, um, well I say that because when I read about your husband, what I had read, and maybe you can correct this, is that the reason that he didn’t serve in Vietnam was because it was against the religion,” Goldberg asked. “That’s what I read, I’m sorry.”

“No, that’s not correct,” Romney said. “He was serving his mission. My five sons have also served their mission.” Romney later added, “I sent them away as boys and they came back men.”

It’s easy to argue that serving the mission could be a good excuse for avoiding combat.  But Whoopi’s remark says that she believes that it is strictly forbidden for Mormons to join the military.  The problem for Whoopi is that she is flat out wrong.  There are numerous members of the Mormon faith who’ve been commended for exemplary military service.

Whoopi was then hit with a ton of hate on Twitter for her mistake.  The unforgiving audience jumped all over her for getting her facts wrong.

“Oh drop dead you friggin Marxist c–t. That’ll make u strong, too,” one person said.

“ahahaha, You tried to make Mrs. Romney look silly, But Your THE BIG DUMMY. they can Fight In WAR….dummy!”

Some said that Goldberg was a racist for the way she treated Mrs. Romney and then demanded an apology.  We doubt they’ll be getting that anytime soon.

 

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74 Responses to Whoopi Goldberg Takes Heat after Nasty Exchange with Ann Romney: Whoopi Lays Incorrect Facts

  1. tom October 21, 2012 at 12:10 pm

    You are also flat wrong obama’s grandfather fought in world war 2

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  2. Toni Price October 21, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    You go Whoopie put it out there!

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  3. Kellygirl October 21, 2012 at 12:36 pm

    I think you people tha

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  4. Lyrical Timbre October 21, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    Distractions, Distractions, DISTRACTIONS! Who cares about what Whoopi G, said? The people of the USA should be focused on the bogus information and propaganda fed to them by Mittens and the GOP as well as President Obama. These two should be our focus, not a talk show host.

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    • me112233 October 22, 2012 at 10:51 am

      What’s that you say? Politicians of all ilks use propaganda? Surely not.

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  5. EVA October 21, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    i didn’t watch the show since i cannot get abc with my cheap anteannae. whoopi did not do the following that i have seen anchors and guests on fox news and clear channel do when they attack pres obama. :: she didn’t start screaming at anne, she didn’t call her or mittens a thug, gangsta, white monkey, hoe or their kids spoiled brats. since romney has five sons why isn’t one of them in the military ?? we already know his granddad escape to mexico because they didnt want to follow rules in the states and then went back to the states when mexico started clamping down on americans who didn’t want to follow their rules because they voluntarily left the states. these people do not follow rules and are Liars.

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    • me112233 October 22, 2012 at 11:13 am

      Romney’s grandfather was a polygamist, so was Obama’s grandfather. Romney’s granddad left the USA because the USA was arresting people for polygamy.

      Romney’s father was NOT a polygamist, and came back to the USA. However, Obama’s father was a polygamist, and activiely practiced his craft right here in the USA, collecting two American wives, all the time having another one (and a kid or two) back home in Kenya.

      I suggest we stick with the legitimate ISSUES of this election, and stop worrying over what somebody’s grandfather did (or didn’t do). Likewise, I really don’t care what Whopi or Anne had to say, especially when it is some petty discussion over whether Mormons are allowed to join the army.

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      • DR COPPERTINO October 22, 2012 at 12:36 pm

        THIS IS SO TRUE…WE NEED TO STICK TO THE LEGITIMATE ISSUES IF WE HAVE ANY SENSE AT ALL!! AND THEN WHEN WE MAKE UP OUR MINDS TO DO SO, WE NEED TO CLEAN OUT FROM UNDER OUR OWN HOUSE FIRST BEFORE WE START KICKING THESE 2 RUNNING FOR THE PRESIDENCY AROUND TOWN. THE HATRED, THE MUD SLINGING, THE CHEAP AND LOWLY CRAP SHOTS FROM EVERYONE IS NOT GOING TO GET ANY OF US ANYWHERE IN AMERICA THAT IS GOOD FOR THE GENERATIONS TO COME. WHAT A SORRY MESS MANY RACIST AND HATEFUL ATTITUDES HAVE GOT US IN! WHO CARES WHAT WHOOPI SAID OR IMPLIED….WRONG OR RIGHT, IN 50 YEARS FROM NOW…WHO OF US CHATTING WILL BE AROUND TO GIVE A D***!

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  6. Kellygirl October 21, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    Listening to Fox News all day can mess up any type of Independent thinking some of you may have ,It took these GOP people 8yrs to f@#% us up, And it just puzzles me that any time you challege these ppl, you fools come in and start bitc#ing and complaning about someone saying something /questioning these people motives or lies ,if it was written somewhere and as we know that dosen’t make it so. But it is what she read!!! Anyway if you ass holes put LIEING ASS ROMNEY in that WHITE HOUSE you will wish YOU HAD USED YOUR BRAIN instead of that news feed. Now that things are starting to get back on track ,you want to throw him under the bus. !! THANK GOD everybody’s not crazy!!!

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  7. LILLIAN SMITH October 21, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    Whoopi Goldberg is far from dumb. Her work on the view calls for her to ask questions. It is the guest who has the responsibility to answer the question. Mrs. Romney NEVER told us what the heck is “serving their mission” Is mission another army connected to the United States??? Like her husband they dance around questions. I respect Whoopi Goldberg and thank God she doesn’t work or live in FEAR.

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  8. Peggy October 21, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    Mormons are a religious group just as Christians are. I was company clerk in San Antonio for conscientious objectors [ppl who religion said they couldn't serve on active duty]. Romney is a liar … he had more money than Ali [a/k/a Cassius Clay] and was able to get outside the US so he could not be drafted. It makes me gag when I see they think ppl are so stupid they cant see through them. Would be a sad thing if Romney won. Vote for Obama and be safe. Romney is assured of starting a war — hell he wants more money than the military asked for but ask him if anyone in his family will go to war. Obama is who I will vote for and I hope you all do as well.

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  9. Godma October 21, 2012 at 10:34 pm

    Whoopi’s question was asked in reference to the veterans returning from the war, if her husband won the office of the presidency
    and how he could empathesize with them, since he and his five sons had not participated in any of the wars. She said nothing wrong, and she was very respectful, besides the fact that was a legitimate question…where was all this outrage when the Romney son, Tag stated he wanted to assault the president for calling his father a liar, which was not true!

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  10. Blaze October 22, 2012 at 12:01 am

    Leave it to white people to overreact!!!

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  11. The Truth October 22, 2012 at 12:57 am

    I hate it when articles leave out certain facts. Especailly on sites that geared towards an African American reader. Mitt Romney protested for the War in Veitnam and then left for his Mormon mission which normally takes 2 years. Mitt was gone for 5. No one is saying anything bad about men or anyone else who didn’t want to fight, die or go to some godforsaken jungle to shoot at a bunch of little brown asian people who had never done anything to them personally. That’s not the issue. Those men who left or didn’t want to go deserve as much respect for their positions as anyone who went. The problem is that Mitt was for the War and yet refused to serve in it. How does a man stretch a 2 year Mormon Mission into 5 freakin years? Then to double down he has five grown ass men as sons. We have been at War for going on 11 years now. Costing an average of 2 Billion dollars per week. Not one of these clowns who say they love America so much wants to actually fight for it. That’s the issue. Maybe when Mitt wins and wants a bunch of poor and middle class kids to go and fight in Iran for him they can all get 5 year deferments and he can send his punk ass sons to go and die.

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    • Nicholaus October 23, 2012 at 12:44 am

      Well said.

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  12. Kerri October 22, 2012 at 1:25 am

    It would have been fine if she asked the same of the Obamas, but she didn’t, and she’s pretty obvious about being a racist. I’m glad she got a bunch of corrections. They treat the Obama family like royalty, and every Republican like $hit. She deserved the backlash.

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  13. Kerri October 22, 2012 at 1:28 am

    Tag was responding as any kid with a backbone would respond when he heard someone blatantly call his dad a liar. He wasn’t thinking of him as the president, he was recognizing the pompous jerk that Obama is. Obama never served in the military either, and his lack of military training has tripled the kill rate of our soldiers.

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  14. Kerri October 22, 2012 at 1:36 am

    And it would be nice if our Commander-in-Chief, pathetic as he is, would pay more attention to his security and intelligence briefings than he spends frequenting talk shows. We had four people brutally tortured and murdered just over a month ago. I think that ought to be more important than a freaking popularity tour.

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    • Nicholaus October 23, 2012 at 1:15 am

      You know what Kerri, lets, just for a moment, go along with the crap that you espouse…..let’s look past all of the “issues”, that people who oppose this administration say about this administration. The ONE THING that people that oppose this current administration; The Republican majority in the House of Representatives said that they will block EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF LEGISLATION COMING FROM THE PRESIDENT AND HIS ADMINISTRATION. Every piece. No President, white, black, or otherwise can be successful with that kind of animosity working against it. No administration has ever had to deal with this kind of animosity, not ONE. Not saying Obama is perfect, because he isn’t, but I find it interesting that no one who opposes this administration speaks about that kind of behavior and opposition.
      Who’s pathetic now? And I am only hoping that you have the same criticism of Romney right now, who is also making the rounds on talk shows at the moment. What exactly did HE (Romney)have to say regarding the four people that were brutally tortured and murdered over a month ago? I have not seen your post criticizing the Romney/Paul “freaking” popularity tour. Your criticisms should apply to BOTH SIDES, not just the one. But that is the game being played by those in opposition right? Hold Obama accountable at a level that Romney shouldn’t have to be.
      Again, who’s pathetic now?

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    • MariLeeza October 25, 2012 at 2:49 am

      Kerri, I heard that there were 18 embassy attacks during the Bush administration. Did you bother to be “up in arms about that?” Because the country sure did not. No human being could correct in four years the destruction that the Re-pug-nant-cans spawned in eight. President Clinton, who left the administration economically “in the Black” even said this during the Convention Speech. You people only want to rant and rave any way you can over anything related to President Obama. Did you blame George Bush for 911 attack on this very country’s soil? No you did not! But really when the truth is revealed about 50 years from now, don’t be surprised if you could have.

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  15. Jeanette Mays October 22, 2012 at 2:01 am

    Repubs deserve to be treated like shit because that’s how they treat people. Before you make comments make sure that you have your facts right! Obama’s grandfather served in war and Romney’s coward ass father and grandfather did not. Romney signed a waiver that mormon’s could sign not to go to war! He came from a family of cowards so I guess it runs in the bloodline! If you saw the show then you would know that Whoopi stated to Ann “correct me if I am wrong.” She was actually asking a question and not making a statement. Obama was a child during the Vietnam war so before you make comments about something you obviously are not aware of do your homework! Not only is Obama calling Romney a “liar” so are a lot of people and I don’t think Tag wants to take a swing at everygbody! Romney’s sons are cowards they have never signed up for the military either but yet their daddy wants to send other people’s children to war! Seriously now and before you open your mouth this post is coming from a military veteran!

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  16. Ms. Francois October 22, 2012 at 3:04 am

    And when will Tagg be arrested by the Secret Service,FBI, CIA, Police someone anyone for saying he wanted to run on stage and SOCK the President of the U.S.? Unstable idiot.

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  17. ICDATRUTH October 22, 2012 at 4:29 am

    Kerri,

    You poor misinformed fool. Ms Goldberg asked a legit question considering mitt’s stance on the war (he is for starting one) as to why he did not participate in one during that time. Considering you are too stupid to realize that fact that the President was not old enough to go to war and was in college during an all volunteer army why should he had gone? Besides if you were a lawyer at the top of your class why would you take a pay decrease to join the military to be guess what? A FREAKING LAWYER!

    Speaking of your nonapparent math skills how many died at the hands of bush, who PRETENDED to serve in the Alabama and Texas Guard? Like I said before the president is not advocating a war with anyone, but ignorant nonbreeding asses like yourself cannot understand that.

    I’m just suprised that you can get any reception at all from the tin foil covering your fathead. You do realize that the republicans from the 112th Congress have cut the budget BELOW from what the Obama administration wanted on their own. To top it off he spent more time READING the briefings than attending them (since that is what is required of him) which is more than all but two other presidents (Clinton and Carter)did.

    If you spent more time checking your facts then going on black sites typing lies maybe your nose would not be as pointy as it is

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  18. Inquiring Mind October 22, 2012 at 5:10 am

    Ms. Whoopi Goldberg was very brave to ask the question. I am sure she knew she would receive this backlash. I too wanted to ask the question. Mr. Romney has FIVE sons, and it is rather strange that neither of his sons has gone to war for this country he wants to help. Mr. Romney has changed his policies so often on so many issues; I am sure he will think of an answer that will calm the people. He tends to change his thinking depending on his audience. Now, what will he tell the veterans??????? Mission VS Military…………

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    • Samdromeda October 23, 2012 at 4:07 am

      In order to slither you have to slide around the issues without being stepped on. I hope that he does not put America in an Etch-A-Sketch. America can be bought just like Indian lands were bought with the Louisiana Purchase. All assets will be sold to finance a European Army once again. In the process of buying back America many will be disenfranchised. Remember that the banks are foreclosing and they are building private prisons. Deportation centers are being set up. People will sell themselves into slavery to survive. Those who do not know what to do will be shipped off anyway. The rest will be killed, starve to death or die from disease. War and famine are coming. There may be a black market in human flesh. Things will get worse. Mitt will have no choice but to sell us out. America needs to repent and know what that Means or cease to be a nation.

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  19. Lares October 22, 2012 at 6:31 am

    Whoopi did nothing wrong. She asked the right questions, politely. More than I would’ve done. When dealing with societie’s gangsters – the 99% – who are the real killers and thieves, the cause of wars, sub prime scams, ghettos, cuts in health, education and welfare so they can continue to get richer while the poor and middle class get poorer and who, in return receive billions in bailouts from thier banker friends or family, I am anything but polite. Sometimes I wish the guillotine still existed so I could vote to chop off the heads of that tiny 1% – to which Romney& Co belong. Polite? Give me a break. Whoopi thank you for saying it the way I’d never be able to. Maybe that’s why you are there, out in the limelight, and I am here, nowhere.

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  20. Winston October 22, 2012 at 7:50 am

    The way I see it Whoopi didn’t get anything wrong. See asked a question and didn’t make a statement of fact, Ann Romney answered the question. People that don’t like Whoopi saw a chance to jump on her.

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  21. I4I October 22, 2012 at 8:07 am

    This family of elites want everyone else to fight the battles they profit from, they suuport military intervention as long as it someone else doing the fighting, I am sure if either of these guys were drafted they would flee the country just like thier coward greatgrandfather did and come dargging back in once things got unconfortable somewhere else.

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  22. The Motown Sound! October 22, 2012 at 8:08 am

    Whoopie was right to ask the question of someone who runs for office in a party that touts warfare as a platform strength….Americans have short memories and FORGET who CAUSED the pain of our economy and recession! Also the question wasn’t an attack but legitimate.

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  23. The Motown Sound! October 22, 2012 at 8:09 am

    Why was the Governor AFRAID to go on the show? We know why!

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  24. I4I October 22, 2012 at 8:15 am

    Did you see how the Ms greeted the only Replublican on the View, she pulled away when the lady tried to hug her and quickly moved on, some people make any excuse to support these people, just like the German people supported Hitler, most whites think that that these people care about them, if this guy wins it will be more even white people in line fights blacks and browns over crumbs.

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  25. Erica October 22, 2012 at 8:40 am

    Whoopi was correct in asking the question, people of means have ways to avoid joining the military or even combat. Since Mtt was of age to be in Veitnam and he was sent on “missions” and his 5 sons did not sign up either, it questions their patriotism (at least for me) Since President was unable to sign up because he was too young it is a non issue as far as he is concerned, Sarah Palin’s son was in the military(although it was said he went in to avoid jail time) but there are very few people who are in high ranking positions in government (senate, congress etc) who served or have immidate family members serving. Maybe that is why the are always wanting a war, and keep in mind there is always big money to be made in war. Check out the contractors like Blackwater and others who are over billing the government by the billions, follow the money and it leads back to people in government.

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  26. Tee October 22, 2012 at 9:31 am

    I believe what the woman said was….an article she read stated Mitt Romney used his faith to get out of serving in Vietnam. THAT IS A FACT. That fact has nothing to do with rather or not a Mormon CAN serve in the military (or fight).

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  27. Pam October 22, 2012 at 10:30 am

    Whoopi needs to stick to her day job, We, Jehovah Witnesses don’t believe in joining the military.

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    • Jan October 22, 2012 at 9:48 pm

      You Jehovah Wittness do not believe in anything but trying to convince people to convert to your religion. Why are you making a comment anyway? You people don’t even vote but you enjoy the benefits the rest of us vote for.

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    • MariLeeza October 25, 2012 at 3:01 am

      This IS Whoopi’s DAY JOB. And she’s doing just FINE in it. There are several religious groups that are conscientious objectors to war, but some join and are assigned non-combat duty. I agree most Jehovah Witnesses don’t even involve themselves in politics and don’t even promote education, especially higher education. I know because one of my close relatives is one in a widely educated family. All I can say like the young people is “Whoopi, You Go, Girl!”

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  28. Marquita October 22, 2012 at 10:43 am

    I am not judging but I am going to ask this question how many Mormon have fought on the front line? What is mission work that exempt you from serving on the front line or in the service? My son a USMC Capt and my only child has served and still in the military arn force, and he choose to stand by our Commsnder and Chief/ President Obama. Therefore if I could loose one and you have five? hummmmmmm

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  29. Brian October 22, 2012 at 11:15 am

    It was a fair question to ask. I also feel that there were no.facts that whoopi needed in order to ask Ann the so called unfactual suggestion. whoopi simply wanted to know, why didn’t enlist in the military?

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  30. Justice October 22, 2012 at 11:30 am

    Whoopi was being polite when she asked Ann Romney the question regarding what she had read regarding Mitt Romney. What Whoopi should have asked her straight out is,“ Neither of your sorry five (5) sons or your husband has served in the Military and what the HELL does serving a Mormon MISSION have to do with serving in the Military”?
    This is what the rich do they send men and women of the poor and middle class to war but they don’t go fight themselves neither do they send their children or encourage them to enlist.

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  31. Lauren October 22, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    Ever notice the commonality in what comes from the far right: they like to call people names and theire spelling and grammar are atrocious.

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  32. Allison October 22, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    Pam, You may be Jehovah Witness but believe me if the drafts was still in place your son would have to serve since there is no missionary work for him to use as an excuse and damn sure if he is black.

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    • Samdromeda October 23, 2012 at 3:50 am

      You cannot force God’ s people to kill against His will. War always leaves blood on your hands. I was just following orders did not justify Hitlers henchmen and it will not work for us either. As for those priests who bless field-martials to commit carnage in the name of the faith… they serve the destroyer. God said “YOU Shall not kill.” There is no such thing as a justifiable war. God fights for the righteous. But if you rejoice over your fallen adversary He will see this and give the victory to your adversary’s army. No human government on this earth is so righteous that they cannot loose. The days of vengeance are coming even for Israel. Whatever is sown will be reaped.

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  33. AMAZINGGRACE October 22, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    Romney’s wife Ann flip the bird to the cameras, or The President, or The First Lady at 10:42 pm EST after the debate last Tuesday night.. And No, they don’t get a pass…. You appear to give the “finger” at a Presidential Debate, and you want to be First Lady???? The republican party is ASAP (A Sad A$$ Party) Indeed.

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  34. AMAZINGGRACE October 22, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    Why the h*ll should Ms. Goldberg apologize? Did Romney’s 42+y.o son apologize for saying he wanted to take a swing at The President? Does his wife have to apologize for giving the bird at the end of the Debate? The answer is No. The Republican Party since 2000 has cheated just about every time they attempted to win the White House by either,,”Hanging Chads, Tabulation Manipulation, and Voter Fraud/Suppression”…Without Theft of an Election, they can’t win An Election!!!!. This is A.S.A.P. (A Sad A$$ Party), indeed.

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  35. Larry Houston October 22, 2012 at 2:22 pm

    How Mitt Dodged the Draft Sep 7 2012
    by H. BRUCE FRANKLIN EEKEND EDITION SEPTEMBER 7-9, 2012

    The Flight of the Young Chicken Hawk

    May 1966. Mitt Romney is just finishing his first—and only—year at Stanford. I’m a 32-year-old ex-Strategic Air Command navigator and intelligence officer, now an associate professor in Stanford’s English Department and something of an anti-Vietnam War activist.
    About a quarter of a million young American men are already being abducted each year to fight the rapidly-escalating Vietnam War. Many college students, however, are protected by their 2S student deferments, which blatantly discriminate against all those millions of other young men unable to afford college. As if this privileging of the relatively privileged were not sufficient, an outcry about “inequity” arises from administrations of some elite universities. Since the 2S deferment is contingent on relatively high class rank (meaning, of course, academic class rank), they argue that this unfairly discriminates against some of the “best” students, i. e., all those attending schools like Stanford. A man in the bottom quarter at an elite university might end up being drafted, even though he might be more “intelligent” than a man in the top quarter of some state college.
    To address such claims of injustice, the Selective Service was rolling out that month the College Qualification Test, a.k.a. the Selective Service Examination, an “objective” assessment of each test taker’s verbal and mathematical skills, to be used by local draft boards, together with college grades and class rank, to determine who was entitled to that precious 2S deferment and who should be shipped off to Vietnam. But this deferment test actually spotlighted the true inequities of the draft. It also offered an opportunity for direct action against the war itself, right on the college campus.
    One of the many myths that have buried the true history of the Vietnam War is that the anti-war movement was motivated by selfish desire, especially among college students, to avoid the draft (a view that conveniently ignores the movement’s throngs of female participants, whose gender automatically exempted them from the draft). Quite to the contrary, students demonstrating against the draft deferment tests were specifically undermining and targeting their own privileges and exemptions, which, as they passionately argued, came at the expense of poor and working class people. At Stanford, a number of people actually disrupted the test. The young men involved thus proved that their goal was not to avoid the draft but to end it, since they had been explicitly warned that their actions would jeopardize their own deferments. When students filed in to take the Selective Service test, other demonstrators handed them the SDS “alternative test” on the history of U.S.-Vietnam relations. About ninety students organized a sit-in in the President’s office. In a manifesto issued from the sit-in they denounced their own privileged status: “We oppose the administration of the Selective Service Examination . . . because it discriminates against those who by virtue of economic deprivation are at a severe disadvantage in taking such a test. . . . [The] less privileged, Negroes, Spanish-Americans, and poor whites, must fight a war in the name of principles such as freedom and equality of opportunity which their own nation has denied them.” “Conscription,” they declared, has throughout American history “invariably been biased in favor of the wealthy and privileged.”
    Enter young Mitt Romney, right on cue, waving a sign denouncing the anti-war students. He, like his fellow almost all-male participants in this pro-war demonstration, fervently argued in support of the war and the draft. But not, of course, for himself.
    When Mitt enrolled at Stanford back in the spring of 1965, the official and overt U.S. war (as distinct from the previous forms of proxy, clandestine, and “adviser” warfare waged in Vietnam for more than a decade) had just begun. Operation Rolling Thunder, the sustained U.S. bombing of the north, had started on March 2. The first officially acknowledged U.S. combat units were the Marines who went ashore at Da Nang on March 8 (joining the 24,000 U.S. military personnel already fighting in Vietnam). Draftees were not yet being used in combat. So Mitt and his dad clearly intended the fall of 1965 to be the beginning of a fine four-year career at Stanford for the young man. But Mitt’s last month as a Stanford student was May 1966. Why?
    Although the Selective Service Exam radically reduced the chances of college men, especially those with the test-taking skills of most Stanford students, to be conscripted into the Vietnam War, it was no guarantee of long-lasting deferment. There were other, surer, escapes from the Vietnam nightmare. One of the very best was the ministry. In 1966, young men flooded into divinity schools, embarking on careers to be ministers, priests, and rabbis. The Mormons had an even better deal than most religions, because The Church of Latter-Day Saints required each and every one of its young men to become, for at least two years, a “minister of religion.” Thus all Mormon young men could claim deferments as ministers. When the inequity of this arrangement became too blatant, the Selective Service entered into an agreement with the LDS that required the church to specify just one “minister” for each geographical district. Since there were relatively few Mormons in Michigan, and Governor George Romney had considerable influence in the church, Mitt quickly received an official appointment as a Mormon “minister of religion,” consecrated by a draft deferment from the Selective Service. So instead of returning to Stanford, Mitt went off to become a Mormon missionary in France, where he would spend the next two and a half years—while Vietnam became a slaughterhouse for the Vietnamese and many Americans drafted to slaughter them.
    So who says that Mitt Romney is inconsistent? After all, what may have been his first recorded public political act was supporting the draft for ordinary Americans, forcing them to participate in a war waged in the interest of his own class.
    H. Bruce Franklin is the John Cotton Dana Professor of English and American Studies at Rutgers University. His most recent book is The Most Important Fish in the Sea: Menhaden and America.
    This essay originally appeared in the print issue of CounterPunch.

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    • Nicholaus October 23, 2012 at 1:21 am

      The flight of the young chicken hawk. That is priceless. I love it. Clears a lot up for me……chicken hawk……(sigh)…..

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  36. Dark Chocolate October 22, 2012 at 2:29 pm

    Whoopi was more right than wrong because there were exemptions in place for Mormons. I personally disregard most of the immature angry brats on twitter, many who will never serve either.

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  37. sportsmomonthego October 22, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    I can not believe this is a discussion. The view members ask questions all the time on their show to guest about stuff they read all the time. At least Whoopi asked Ms. Romney the question in a respectable mannerand gave her the door to correct her if she was wrong unlike that attacking Elizabeth who ask the President a question like a condensending bulldog on attack.

    The thing people need to realize that it is so unfortunately that the Romney’s put fingers in people faces, bully others, get out of control when something is said they do not agree with (Tagg Romney response), show no patrioism (overseas accounts, no show of tax returns to see the extent of overseas investments/accounts, company outsourced overseas jobs)..and that trying to buy out the election by professing his Morman religion but taking large CAMPAIGN contributions from GAMBLERS. Such Hypocrisy… When Bush made the decision to go into IRAQ without proof of weapons of mass destruction, if anyone questioned his decision, they were labled UNPATRIOTIC, we should not forgot all the lives that were killed and destroyed because of the selfish, unfounded decision that cost AMERICANS billions of dollars, and destroyed a country… So people know if the person who wants to be in the highest office of our land can not stand people asking him or his wife questions that could harm many lives then maybe they should get out of this RACE. Our President and his wife have taken many disrespectful questions and remarks, when he has ultimately ALWAYS SHOWED THE UPMOST RESPECT TO ALL AMERICANS…no matter what their color, race, creed, religion or sexual orientation. Just because you make money for a business and control things in that area DOES not mean you will be a GOOD leader of a democratic society/country.
    Romensia and his wife Ann need to go back to their country club living with their elitist kids…and Let’s continue to move forward with Obama/Biden 2012!.

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  38. Inquiring Mind October 22, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    Now, we are considering the possibility of electing Mitt Romney to the job of the President of the United States, a minister whose faith doctrine allowed polygamy (this thinking is contrary to Women’s Rights) a man who used his ministerial position to dodge the draft, a man who is disrespectful of the office of Presidency, a man who wants to change medicare to a voucher system, a man who is not concerned about the 47% (the Military) a flip-flopper, a man who has shipped jobs overseas, a man who has acquired businesses, made money and laid-workers off. He has changed his position so many times, it is impossible to know what his views are; infact, WHO IS MITT ROMNEY???

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  39. Maxine October 22, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    Look what a white report wrote for the News

    Andrew M. Manis is associate professor of history at Macon State College in Georgia and wrote this for an editorial in the Macon Telegraph.

    Andrew M. Manis: When Are WE Going to Get Over It?

    For much of the last forty years, ever since America “fixed” its race problem in the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, we white people have been impatient with African Americans who continued to blame race for their difficulties. Often we have heard whites ask, “When are African Americans finally going to get over it?

    Now I want to ask:

    “When are we White Americans going to get over our ridiculous obsession with skin color?

    Recent reports that “Election Spurs Hundreds’ of Race Threats, Crimes” should frighten and infuriate every one of us. Having grown up in “Bombingham,” Alabama in the 1960s, I remember overhearing an avalanche of comments about what many white classmates and their parents wanted to do to John and Bobby Kennedy and Martin Luther King.

    Eventually, as you may recall, in all three cases, someone decided to do more than “talk the talk.”

    Since our recent presidential election, to our eternal shame we are once again hearing the same reprehensible talk I remember from my boyhood.

    We white people have controlled political life in the disunited colonies and United States for some 400 years on this continent.

    Conservative whites have been in power 28 of the last 40 years. Even during the eight Clinton years, conservatives in Congress blocked most of his agenda and pulled him to the right. Yet never in that period did I read any headlines suggesting that anyone was calling for the assassinations of presidents Nixon, Ford, Reagan, or either of the Bushes. Criticize them, yes.

    Call for their impeachment, perhaps. But there were no bounties on their heads. And even when someone did try to kill Ronald Reagan, the perpetrator was non-political mental case who wanted merely to impress Jody Foster.

    But elect a liberal who happens to be Black and we’re back in the sixties again. At this point in our history, we should be proud that we’ve proven what conservatives are always saying — that in America anything is possible,EVEN electing a black man as president.

    But instead we now hear that school children from Maine to California are talking about wanting to “assassinateObama.”

    Fighting the urge to throw up, I can only ask, “Howlong?”

    How long before we white people realize we can’t make our nation, much less the whole world, look like us?

    How long until we white people can – once and for all – get over this hell-conceived preoccupation with skin color?

    How long until we white people get over the demonic conviction that white skin makes us superior?

    How long before we white people get over our bitter resentments about being demoted to the status of equality with non-whites?

    How long before we get over our expectations that we should be at the head of the line merely because of our white skin?

    How long until we white people end our silence and call out our peers when they share the latest racist jokes in the privacy of our white-only conversations?

    I believe in free speech, but how long until we white people start making racist loudmouths as socially uncomfortable as we do flag burners?

    How long until we white people will stop insisting that blacks exercise personal responsibility, build strong families, educate themselves enough to edit the Harvard Law Review, and work hard enough to become President of the United States, only to threaten to assassinate them when they do?

    How long before we start “living out the true meaning” of our creeds, both civil and religious, that all men and women are created equal and that “red and yellow,black and white” all are precious in God’s sight?

    Until this past November 4, I didn’t believe this country would ever elect an African American to the presidency. I still don’t believe I’ll live long enough to see us white people get over our racism problem.

    But here’s my three-point plan:

    First, everyday that Barack Obama lives in the White House that Black Slaves Built, I’m going to pray that God (and the Secret Service) will protect him and his family from us white people.

    Second, I’m going to report to the FBI any whiteperson I overhear saying, in seriousness or in jest, anything of a threatening nature about President Obama.

    Third, I’m going to pray to live long enough to see America surprise the world once again, when white people can “in spirit and in truth” sing of our damnable color prejudice,

    “We HAVE overcome.”

    **************************************

    It takes a Village to protect our President!!!

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    • El December 4, 2012 at 4:35 am

      Bless you for your courage.

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  40. Maxine October 22, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    This is a white writer who wrote this editorial

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  41. Avery October 22, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    The Obama zombies are out in force tonight. So many non thinking black and white people it is sad. MLK would be so proud of how lazy many have become.

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    • dorothy October 23, 2012 at 1:13 am

      And all of you with Rominesia are working hard to help liar,liar. They are both liars. The Stedfor Wife says whatever Romney wants her to stay. Pray and Vote Obama 2012

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    • MariLeeza October 25, 2012 at 3:23 am

      This had to be said by a Caucasian person. No one else has the utter gall to try to call minorities “lazy”, when in fact minorities are some of the hardest working people in the land. This said from the laziest race on the planet, always wanting to be waited on hand and foot by anyone else but themselves. Whether living off the “fat of the land” tilled by minority people, or living the “good life” while paying “slave wages” to their own people and any others in business and industry. Why else do these money grabbing dollar mongers and greedy swine want to lord it over all others in their 1% class except to lay or sit around and be at leisure all day while others sweat to make their money for them. No I for one applaud the THINKERS who can see straight through the Romneys and their ilk, straight past the lies, vulture-like false accusations, deceptions and distortions that should settle them down in their unconscionable depth of the pit of degradation. How do these low excuses for humanity live with themselves; how can they even look at their vile images in the mirror of life. They are so sad they are pathetic.

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    • El December 4, 2012 at 4:55 am

      Sigh… what is sad is the lack of knowledge that so many have about the numbers that are presented claiming that the minorities (blacks) are the poor and lazy. Start checking the raw numbers please. There are more Caucasians on the welfare and public assistance roles in the USA than there are Black people in the whole of the USA.

      As long as politicians can keep you afraid of the Black and Brown people they will ALWAYS be able to get you, poor white people, to vote against your own self interests. As long as you are voting based on fear, rather than facts, you will always be where you are. Under that rich politicians boot fighting the Black guy he is holding down with his other boot.

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  42. Madd October 22, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    Until there is an apology for all the racist crap towards the President INCLUDING Tagg Romney’s comment about wanting to take a swing at the PRESIDENT…The Romney fan clubbers and Ann Romney can kiss Whoopi’s ass and mine too.

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  43. Inquiring Mind October 22, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    President Obama made accomplishments without the help of the Republicans; can you imagine what could have been achieved for America if the Republican’s interest was for the good of our country. President Obama did well in spite of the Republicans; I will not be a part of the Republican’s hate. I love the President!!!

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  44. BlaqDove October 22, 2012 at 7:26 pm

    Yea she might of had the religion part wrong but Romney had five deferments and they did send their sons away so they would not be able to go to war… however, Obama wasnt old enuff to serve around the time Romney could. U see he avoids that question

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  45. Dark Chocolate October 22, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    If nothing else, obama made this country show its guts, and turned up a lot of shit. Now the whole world knows what kind of people Americans are; a mixed bag of good, bad, and ugly.

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  46. Elizabeth October 22, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    I am not a big fan of “Whoopi” as a person, but she is a great comedian. I don’t see anything wrong with the question she asked. Mitt Romney has 5 sons and none have served their country…why? However, he wants to create 12 million jobs by bringing on WWIII and then bringing back the draft to kill your children. We all should vote and vote Obama-Biden. Don’t forget to also vote in your Congressional and Senatorial races, the POTUS needs help to pass laws.

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  47. coast cooker October 22, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    @ Pam the jehovahs wittnesses are nothing but abunch of retired whores and drug attics..

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    • Satchel October 22, 2012 at 11:06 pm

      How cruel of you to make a statement like that painting, peoples faith with such a broard brush. Wanna rethink that?

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  48. brotherscoe October 23, 2012 at 2:00 am

    That smiling she devil, can’t be trusted along with her husband!

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  49. Mike C. Okereke October 23, 2012 at 8:35 am

    There is nothing wrong, and I mean, absolutely nothing wrong with Whoopi asking Mrs. Romney about her family’s involvement in the military. I am certain that a similar question would be posed to Michelle Obama if any member of her family was of military material at any point in her family’s their relatively young life.
    I am sure that all the people coming down hard on Whoopi are White people, without a doubt. These mostly White people are people of the past who would dare a Black woman to talk to a “high-heeld” White woman.
    Another reason why Whoopi’s question is not inappropriate is this; Mrs. Romney has six men in her family, the oldest one was indeed a military material during the Vietnam war, the others – her sons, all five of them – are old enough to be in the military. The Romney family is typical of America’s war mongers who would advocate America’s intervention in other countries, but would rather send the families of the poor, and less opportuned to do their dirty and interventionist deeds.

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  50. Robert Johnson October 23, 2012 at 11:03 am

    I’m from Michigan and George Romney was a damn good Governor. During the ’67 riots in Detroit he stood in the middle of the Dexter Ave and asked, “what can I do to make this situation better.” He was great to black people throughout his term in office. Now his son is another matter. Mitt Romney said to Detroit, “let the auto companies die…” What an asshole. Anybody from Michigan who even considers voting for him is misinformed. He don’t give a damn about Detroit, the state of Michigan, black people, or the poor and middle class of this country. We must not forget him or that asshole Paul Ryan, whose also got nothing for anybody not rich.

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  51. HULLDOG MAXXX October 23, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    WHOOPI MAY HAVE A POINT. BECAUSE DURING THE 2008 CAMPAIGN. SLICK MITT WAS ASKED WHY HIS FIVE SONS ARE NOT SERVING IN THE MILITARY? HE SATED THAT THEY WERE HELPING HIM WITH HIS CAMPAIGN. WELL IT IS FOUR YEARS LATER AND ONE LESS WAR AND HIS FIVE STRAPPING STRONG SONS ARE NOT SERVING?

    IT GIVES CREDENCE TO THE OLD IDIOM THAT THE RICH START AND INVEST IN WARS BUT DO NOT SEND THEIR SONS AND DAUGHTERS TO GO OFF TO FIGHT AND DIE IN LIKE MOST OF US.

    THAT IS THE REASON THAT SLICK MITT’S WIFE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ASKED. AND THE OTHER REASON IS THE NEO RIGHT WING BLEEDING “A” HOLE CUNSTSERVATIVE REPUBLICLANSMEN ARE ALWAYS STRUTTING AROUND SAYING HOW THEY ARE THE POLITICAL PARTY OF PATRIOTISM. THEY ARE MORE LIKE CHICKEN HAWKS AND ARM CHAIR PATRIOTS. I SAY THIS BECAUSE WHEN THE NEO RIGHT WING BLEEDING ‘A” HOLE CUNTSERVATIVES REPUBLICLANSMEN TOOK OVER BOTH HOUSES IN 1996. AT LEAST 98 % HAD NOT SERVED ANY ACTIVE DUTY IN THE U.S. ARM FORCES.

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  52. Jamal Johnson October 23, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    Whoppi is a great actress but intellectually she never rose above the waitress she was. She is the typical Burka Doormat Woman that populates the Democratic Party. Her comment “rape, rape” shows she was raised in a fatherless household where men, who occasionally visit, are given quite the latitude when it comes to taking a woman for granted. She could not kiss Michelle’s cheeks enough, if you know what I mean. The woman has no grasp of “Entropy” if you get my drift. Her thought process is more like, well, say a virtual particle popping in and out of existence.

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    • MariLeeza October 25, 2012 at 3:50 am

      Obviously you said all that to impress yourself. No one else cares about your pitiful and inappropriate assessment of someone else. Here is a clue. Start from the top to the bottom and see just how few people think like you. It is sad when someone thinks so highly of himself and cannot recognize intelligence in others. If Whoppi had not been as intelligent as she is and has not fulfilled the moderator responsibility so well, Ms. Walters surely would neither have selected nor kept her in that position.

      Maybe you are suffering from too much or too little “Entropy” yourself and are “drifting” out to sea . . . since the lexicon defines it as: “a quantity, expressed as a function of the temperature, pressure, and density of a system, that is the measure of an amount of energy unavailable for work during a natural process. For a system undergoing a spontaneous change, this quantity increases. 2. The measure of the frequency with which an event occurs within a system; measure of probability in a closed or isolated system. 3. degree of sameness or similarity. 4. homogeneity, uniformity or lack of distinction or differentiation.”

      In fact, the second part of definition no. 2 really appears to pertain to you and others with “closed minds.”

      But I wish you well anyway. Have a good day!

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  53. Bernieb October 24, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    just be cool…………….

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  54. Sharen October 24, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    This is for Kerry, who made reference to Whoopie Goldberg being racist. First of all, it is not possible for African Americans to be racist, or to practice racism, or oppression, because you have to have power to subjugate or oppress other people in order to fully execute racism, and racism also has been institutionalized in this country, and African Americans are not powerful enough to influence institutional racism.
    I will admit that individual people can be bigoted, or even biased, but please use the proper nomenclature when referencing topics of such great significance.

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  55. JoAnne October 24, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    Thank you, Whoopie!!!! That is what i have been wanting to ask!! Romney will send our boys to Syria and Iran and whereever but his big well-fed boys are in U.S. making more millions and babies!!
    Yes, they serve missions. Some are right here in Bermuda–serving.
    As for the one who wanted to swing on our President–Tell him to check “Fifty Cent”” about that swing thing!!

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  56. Sam Knight October 25, 2012 at 8:56 am

    The angry outpouring toward Whoppi is ridiculous & offensive. In my opinion, she’s one of the best! First of all, she said ‘correct me if I’m wrong’. Second, A. Romney’s husband is running for President, not dog dispatcher, so how could this kind of question be considered inappropriate? We learned so little from Mrs. Romney’s interview it was almost a waste of time. What we did learn amounted to pre-written notes & excuses. I’m trying to figure out how & why Whoppi is thought to be racist. She’s a bright, creative individual who doesn’t mind expressing her views. I don’t see her attacking anyone but I do see her trying to get a reasonable inquiry answered. Gee, what a concept!

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  57. Deborah October 25, 2012 at 8:57 am

    Whoopi, you need to read up before you start out on the offensive like this. Your inaccuracy is embarassing. But I’m not surprised to hear this from someone who defended Mel Gibson after his appaling Holocaust comments.

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