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Maria Lloyd: Two Reasons Why 18-Year-Old Tony Farmer Should Not Go To Prison For Three Years
Surveillance Footage Of 18-Year-Old Tony Farmer Attacking Ex-Girlfriend
by Maria Lloyd
The black community is up in arms following a judge’s decision to sentence 18-year-old Tony Farmer, a high school basketball star in Ohio, to prison for three years for physically abusing his 18-year-old ex-girlfriend, Andrea Lane, in her apartment complex. Judge Pamela Barker attributes Farmer’s violent rage caught on camera and his threats to Lane following the court’s ‘no contact’ order to her reason for sending him to prison for three years.
While some people in the black community are praising the judge’s decision and saying she “let him off easy” with the three-year-sentence, other people in the black community are wishing the young man would’ve received some form of punishment that will better him (e.g. counseling, community service, strict probation, and a shorter prison sentence). There is no doubt that he deserves punishment. After watching the video of his vicious attack, it would be remiss of anyone to not agree that punishment is necessary, and it would also be remiss of anyone to not agree that he needs help. Here are two reasons why I believe his punishment is inadequate:
1. Prison doesn’t work.
America has failed at creating a justice system that truly strives to rehabilitate criminals. Throwing someone in prison without seeking to destroy the root of their criminal behavior is equivalent to throwing a vicious lion in a cage and expecting not to be gnawed to death when you open his cage years later. Prison is simply a means of quarantining the criminal, not “curing” them of their vicious thought process.
If prison were truly a means of rehabilitation, why are prisoners left with a criminal record for the rest of their lives? America’s prison system is so flawed that the very persons who support it and “believe in it” don’t trust it enough to not haunt those who have served their time with a criminal record for the rest of their lives. I know how prison affects people all too well, as my entire family has been incarcerated at one point and my father continues to serve life in prison to date. If prison is the response to deviant activity, why don’t we throw 18-year-old men in jail who are deceiving their girlfriend and breaking her heart? Is the act harmless because we can’t see and/or touch the bruise?
2. We’ve only seen one side of the story.
“If you’re not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.” -Malcolm X
Although Malcolm X didn’t live to see how today’s media strategically places a substantial amount of negative images of African American men to justify throwing them in prison, he was clever enough to identify the media’s strategy in the 1960’s. In no way am I diluting the impact of the gruesome attack, but I wonder if Farmer’s critics were given surveillance footage of a troubled-Farmer’s life would their opinion of his punishment remain the same. Hailing from crime-ridden Cleveland, OH, Farmer was probably not short of experiencing some traumatic occurrences in his life that have lead to his decision to abuse Lane today; however, we don’t know anything about his life because his side of the story has yet to be heard. As Dr. Boyce Watkins conveyed in his article about the Evelyn Lozada and Chad Johnson dispute, women are not always the victim in these disputes.
If I were Judge Pamela Barker, I would’ve sentenced him to counseling, community service, and probation. When Farmer gets out of prison three years from now, will he be a recovered “woman beater” or a woman killer? I sincerely hope the latter does not occur. I wish the best for he and the victim, as both parties are at a great loss from this dispute.
Mona
August 24, 2018 at 10:38 am
Being a product of abuse and a broken home yourself does not give you leeway to beat on a women. He really should have gotten more time. That was a horrible beating and I’m surprised she survived it. If you don’t want to go to prision dont engage in criminal activity. Point blank.
raheem
August 24, 2018 at 6:57 pm
interesting how black people have become immune to sending young black men to prison. white people have sent so many of our young black men to prison we no longer see a problem with it. if this kid was white, white people was be asking for probation and counseling to ensure an 18 year old kid has a chance in life…knowing there is no rehabiliation in priosn for an 18 year old kid.
Andre
August 2, 2021 at 2:09 pm
I love ( sarcastically) to see the old “what would white people do” comparisons. Yes many would be trying to let counseling and so on, but i believe, just like in this case, far MORE white people would be looking to properly punish a white kid for this violent act. This is plain and simply thuggery and the good jail time serves is to have the NEXT Tony Farmer see that it will not be taken lightly. To see that beating a person like that will not be handled with community service because you are on the verge of becoming a rich pro athlete. We KNOW the Justice system is hard on Black youth. When will it be realized that that is the incentive to NOT do the crimes? What you don’t mention is that in the Black community, there is that attitude that mirrors general society that a strong male is prone to slap around the old lady now and then. Its accepted as the ups and downs of a relationship with everyday folk so of anyone of even a minor celebrity status gets a pass, or two or three. We become immune to looking at a crime for what it is. We tolerate our family members, school friends, the kid down the block because we know they’re good people “inside” that made that mistake of drugs, gangbanging or beating up those they are supposed to love. That’s a bunch of BS.
L W O
August 26, 2018 at 4:47 pm
Mona, I couldn’t have said it better myself. Why wasn’t this thug out beating a skinhead or another man? Why was he beating a poor defenseless woman? I think he did get off too lightly. I believe prison is for punishment-not rehabilitation. If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime. I’ve seen convicts on TV who say they don’t want to be rehabilitated. They go to prison and hone their skills to make them even better criminals. The author of this article really is a “bleeding-heart liberal.”
John
August 24, 2018 at 11:03 am
This is sick commentary. And to say that she may not have been the victim when the video clearly captured the brutal beating is unconscionable. Moral bankruptcy comes to mind.
raheem
August 24, 2018 at 6:47 pm
interesting how when white 18 year old kids commit a crime people iuse the mental capacity as a pretext to justify the crime.
but when a black 18 year old commit a crime, people don’t look at his/her mental capacity, we judge black kids on right and wrong, see them as adults and ignore the mental issues thar are given to white kids when they commit the sam crimes.
if this kid was a 18 year old white kid and being recruited by big time athletic schools, he would have received probation…a black kid, prison! yes the kid was wrong, but he needs professional counseling…not prison…wake up black people!
Nedrea
August 24, 2018 at 10:04 pm
Yeah but the problem is that black males need to learn to keep their hands off and away from us black women. The first thing you all seem to scream if we don’t like black men and give the reason that you all are extremely abusive and lack responsible habits and respect and behave like dogs, then you all get mad and say we are so called sell-outs when the real sell-outs are black males. We do need to wake-up alright. We need to wake up and realize that black males are a danger in many ways. The problem is no one is teaching them morals ethics and values and so you all beat women and think its okay. Counseling will not help what he did to her. With women coming under attack in this country, we need to head to self defense classes and learn how to defend ourselves.
raheem
August 25, 2018 at 9:54 pm
not sure where you are getting this all black men beat women. you need to check yourself on stereotyping black men by using the term “all” when describing black men. now if you’re a prostitute and have a pimp, then i understand your ignorance in generalizing that all black men beat women.
Max-A-Million
August 25, 2018 at 2:48 am
And you know what Raheem, I don’t think anyone can deny that what you’re saying is true. However, the thing is We (Black folks) don’t make the rules, we have to either follow them or deal with the consequences. Let’s look at the facts: 1) we live in a racist society, 2) I think it would be safe to assume Mr. Farmer doesn’t come from a wealthy background; cause money talks and he probably would have gotten a slap on the wrist, and 3) most importantly – he ain’t White! This young man had an opportunity that most young people (whatever color they are) only dream about and he made the wrong choice! Unfortunately he now has to deal with the consequences of his actions.
Maria Lloyd
August 25, 2018 at 12:50 pm
@Max-A-Million
“However, the thing is We (Black folks) don’t make the rules, we have to either follow them or deal with the consequences.”
Oh, like how the slaves were told to be good boys and girls and stay on the plantation no matter how many times they were raped or beaten? Thank God for Harriet Tubman!!! She didn’t follow the rules…
Wow! The slave mentality is alive and well… May God help my people… SMH
Max-A-Million
August 25, 2018 at 2:41 pm
@ Maria Lloyd
No slave mentality here; I just love making my own choices, not having them made for me! You have a better idea? You have a better system? Because if your solution is to write commentaries and blogs, THEY’RE CLEARLY NOT WORKING! The jail houses are full of US and I can honestly say my momma gave birth to 7 children, my brother and I are the two youngest (I just turned 50 and he’ll be 43 next month) and NONE of us have Ever been arrested or gone to jail! I do have a nephew who went to jail for 6 months and he learned quickly that was no place he wanted to be and that was 5 years ago; his father my brother was not in his life. You know, I do sympathize with You because as you stated above your family has been affected by incarceration; however, we have something called freewill (choice.) I also think we really need to stop using the slavery card when we have to deal with the consequences of the bad choices we make. Now yes, I agree there is a new kind of slavery but I would suggest fighting that in court. The fact of the matter is you either follow the law as it’s written, fight it in court or loose your liberty. No disrespect to you, but it’s obvious they’re are some folks in your family who didn’t learn that. I think your role should be not to try and carry the burden of your family’s bad choices but to break the cycle. Peace and Blessings to you!
Troy
February 25, 2019 at 6:39 am
So prosecuting a 6’7″ man for beating a woman half his size to a pulp is the same as telling him to stay on the plantation?
When you spout this kind of bilge, you cheapen any legitimate gripes that do come up?
You are a knee-jerk racist. The judge gave him the minimum sentence and the three sentences are running concurrent are running concurrent. If she had the option to make them run consecutive, she didn’t do it.
raheem
August 25, 2018 at 9:43 pm
thank god dr. king, malcolm, harriet, nat turner etc. didn’t have your attitude or way of thinking…if so, we would still be on the plantation. although you’re no longer on the plantation, you still have a slave mind!
L W O
August 26, 2018 at 4:51 pm
raheem, your reply ain’t necessarily so. I live in Texas. Trust me, white thugs do get criticized and punished. People aren’t as forgiving as you think. White people are just as tired of criminal activity among their young hoodlums as Black people are of theirs.
raheem
August 27, 2018 at 9:32 am
never said he should not be punished, the amount of prison time given is my issue.
Bo
August 24, 2018 at 11:13 am
Thats some BS. Look his community did not make him beat that defensive young lady up. If this was a fat unathletic kid from the hood he would have been prosecuted to the fullest extent. He better be glad it ain’t Nay you hit somebody’s daughter like that dont call 50you call the morgue.
Max-A-Million
August 25, 2018 at 2:34 am
AMEN!
raheem
August 25, 2018 at 10:19 pm
for those who think he got what he deserved and should have received more prison time. what if the roles were reversed and the girl hit the guy and pulled his hair, i wonder how many of you would be ok with the 18 year old girl getting 3 years in prison.
Max-A-Million
August 26, 2018 at 12:23 am
@ raheem
Say what you’d like but you and Maria Lloyd need to save your empathy and sympathy for someone more deserving. That young man beat Hell out of that young girl and it was obvious she wasn’t trying to defend herself because she was running away; that’s when she wasn’t cowering in the corner. The way that dude beat her, I’m Certain it wasn’t his first time hitting her. There was a protective order against him (he knew it), he went to where she lived (violating the PO), he knew what he had to loose, and bottom line, dude was OUT OF CONTROL!!! Would you have been okay with him beating the hell out of a female family member of yours, and getting a slap on the wrist? Would you prefer to serve the time for him so he can go on with his ball career? I’m sure he thought because he was a sought after rising star that he could do what the hell he wanted, and he can, but he’ll also have to deal with the consequences. And even if she had pounded on him (not defending herself) , I would still think that she needed to be locked up. If you’re not defending yourself, KEEP YOUR DAMN HANDS TO YOURSELF!!! Ms. Lloyd talks about her entire family has been incarcerated; do either of you think that there’s anything wrong with that? Should offenders just be free to offend over and over again with no consequences? And this goes far beyond Mr. Farmer. Has anyone been reading about what’s going on in Chicago? Us (Black folks) Completely out of control! Are the rest of us supposed to walk around in fear? Should offenders not be punished for their behavior? I’m all for unity but I’m just not feeling you and Ms. Lloyd on this one. The Heavenly Father is a God of Many chances, but in “THIS WORLD” sometimes you just don’t get a second chance. My favorite bible scripture is Romans 8:28 “And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose.” What it means is everything that happens to us may not be good but somehow it’ll work out for our good and God’s glory. This dude’s outcome may be exactly what he needed because the next female he put his hands on, his momma may have been visiting him at the morgue!
Maria Lloyd
August 26, 2018 at 1:10 am
@Max-A-Million
“Has anyone been reading about what’s going on in Chicago? Us (Black folks) Completely out of control!”
You are reacting exactly how the media wants you to react… “Let’s stay away from those CRAZY N*GGERS!” Who do you think is committing those crimes in Chicago? Young adults with a stellar upbringing? Of course not! This is exactly the point I’m debating: We must be proactive in assisting people who hail from traumatic conditions….
As I posted earlier, there are children who have experienced trauma equivalent to soldiers in Afghanistan, yet when they commit a violent crime, we expect them to magically “know better” and throw them in prison without any tools to help them overcome their post-traumatic experiences. That’s like taking a vicious animal from the Sahara Desert and expecting it to “play nice” in the backyard with your house dog. It’s such a pitiful and flawed way of thinking.
Max-A-Million
August 26, 2018 at 11:09 am
@ Maria Lloyd
I just got back from church, feeling Real good, the Word was good but I have to honestly say I’m not feeling any different about this situation.
We’re just going to have to agree to disagree on this one. “We must be proactive in assisting people who hail from traumatic conditions….” What are you doing? What are you doing within your family so impacted by incarceration? What do you suggest we do? Please let me know because I’m definitely down with being part of the solution.
I just pray that Mr. Farmer in the minimum 180 days that he has to serve learns that “your actions have consequences”, and sometimes life altering consequences. Mr. Farmer’s future ball career may be over but if he makes it out of jail (I pray), his life won’t be over. It’ll be dramatically different but I hope he will have matured and accept responsibility for the role he played in this outcome. He can still go to college (I’m still paying student loans and I graduated in 2001), he can still have a productive and successful life; however he’ll just have one more hurdle to overcome just like all the other hurdles that we as Black folks have to deal with everyday.
Peace and Blessing everybody!
raheem
August 26, 2018 at 1:14 pm
for your information, the young lady assaulted by the young man told the judge not to send him to prison..that the kid is in need of professional counseling..not prison. so shut the hell up on trying to tell someone not to have empathy or sympathy.
i’m not saying this kid should not be punished, my issue is the sentence of 3 years in prison. i have seen white guys get less time for manslaughter. in my analysis, one year in prison would have been a fair sentence if probation was not an option. 3 threes in prison will destroy the kid.
remember thiis 18 year old if you/family member make a mistake and find yourself in a position to lose everything you worked for in life. make sure you don’t ask for fairness or sympathy..ask for the extreme punishment to ensure we destroy another black man….mr. callous!
Max-A-Million
August 26, 2018 at 3:23 pm
@ raheem
I’m going to do this last post and I’m going to be done with this issue. Like I stated to Maria Lloyd above, we’re going to just have to agree to disagree. And the bottom line is Mr. Farmer as the judge stated can petition for release after 180 days. I didn’t put him there, his actions as an 18 year old Man did!
Again, I ask you the question “Would you have been okay with Mr. Farmer beating the hell out of your sister or your daughter (if you have either) and getting just a slap on the wrist of “don’t do that again”? Because I can sincerely tell you had that been one of my nieces, Mrs. Farmer would be either be visiting her son in a trauma center or viewing him at the morgue. I’m seriously not exaggerating! Yes, my brother(s) would be wrong according to the law but at least they would have had a reason for being locked up.
You say, “the young lady assaulted by the young man told the judge not to send him to prison..that the kid is in need of professional counseling..not prison.” What the Hell did you expect her to say? She also said she didn’t want anything else to do with him. If I were in her shoes, and I was a young and scared girl, and I had just gotten my azz beat, and the goose who was about to lay the golden egg was about to be carted off to jail, with his family who I’m sure would have been benefactors of his talent looking on; I think would have said what I needed to as well to let the golden goose go. But as you can see the judge didn’t by it. Do you not think officers of the criminal court system see that scenario played out all day every day.
Then you mention below referring to me, “you come out as callous, arrogant and elitist in your thoughts.” Dude I can tell you, nothing could be farther from the truth! I work everyday to provide for myself and pay my bills like most folks. Now if standing for doing the right thing makes me all those adjectives; then I’m guilty! I can tell you had Mr. Farmer in that video been one of my brothers or nephews, I would still say “Send their azz to jail.” And Especially if they sought the person out, knowing they had a PO against them. And unfortunately if the judge gave them 3 years, oh well! What the hell am I going to do? They did the assault, they’ll have to deal with consequences.
Finally, you say “he most likely will never play college basketball at a division 1 school, nor have a chance to play professionally.” I say, “WHO THE HELL CARES!” You act like him not having a ball career is the end of the world. There are a lot of law abiding citizens who I’m sure had that same dream and for whatever reason it didn’t come to fruition; life goes on! You get a student loan, you go to college or you get a trade, you start your own business and you live life. We have Endless examples of pro athletes in the news that prove “Money is not the end all be all!” There are some athletes constantly in trouble with the law, they create lives they Don’t want to provide for, a lot of them are broke within 5 years of their career ending, etc. In My opinion money just seems to amplify what you already are. Contrary to what you might think or believe I really do wish Mr. Framer the best, because God willing he has a lot of life to live and I hope it’s a successful one.
Troy
February 25, 2019 at 6:49 am
I just saw a news story of a white man that got either 13 or 15 years for beating up his wife in judges chambers in divorce court.
All you are doing Raheem is spouting racism, your own racial hate. And look what you do driven by that hate. You try to make up excuses for Farmer, and say that it was whitie’s fault. You’re a broken record. And by the way, this is Feb of 2019. This racist country that you hate so much re-elected a black President over a white opponent. And that re-election couldn’t have happened without tens of millions of white votes. The black vote alone could not have won it. It took all of those whites out here that you hate so much. You’re a feeble broken record.
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Troy
February 25, 2019 at 6:58 am
I just saw a news story of a white man that got either 13 or 15 years for beating up his wife in judges chambers in divorce court.
All you are doing Raheem is spouting racism, your own racial hate. And look what you do driven by that hate. You try to make up excuses for Farmer, and say that it was whitie’s fault. You’re a broken record. And by the way, this is Feb of 2019. This racist country that you hate so much re-elected a black President over a white opponent. And that re-election couldn’t have happened without tens of millions of white votes. The black vote alone could not have won it. It took all of those whites out here that you hate so much. You’re a feeble broken record.
Janna
August 24, 2018 at 11:37 am
He is being punished for his crime, that’s the point of prison. He needs to take it upon himself to seek counseling, therapy, whatever it may be, once he is released. This is why so much abuse continues. The victim is made to feel guilty or at fault for the wrongs done against them, and the criminals are coddled by the “black community” because there’s already so many black men in prison. Well. guess what – that’s his own damn fault. If you want to enjoy your freedom, you probably shouldn’t beat people or do any other illegal activities. Save all this crying for someone who deserves it, like maybe the girl who got beat and dragged by her hair, not this “man” who thought he’d get off even easier although he pled guilty to serious charges.
Roni Clark
August 24, 2018 at 12:56 pm
Well said, Janna!! My sentiments EXACTLY!!
Lisa
August 24, 2018 at 11:43 am
Wow, you should be completely ashamed of yourself for writing this piece of garbage.
Max-A-Million
August 25, 2018 at 2:26 am
@Lisa
I agree with you 110%! This piece is shameful. As Dr. Phil would say, “When you choose the behavior, you choose the consequence.” I guarantee you he’ll keep his damn hands to himself from here on out! And I’m certain his ex got up there pleading for him because she was getting pressure from his family. If you look at his face in the video of the court proceedings as the judge rendered her verdict and prior to him collapsing, it was obvious he thought he was going to get a slap on the wrist. I mean I’m TOTALLY against men putting their hands on women, as well as equally against women putting their hands on men. He’s right where he needs to be. Even if she struck him first, he should have walked away because he knew what he had to loose. Not to mention if his behavior was like this as a rising star, I can only imagine what he would be once he walked into fame and fortune. Money just seems to amplify what you already are. Future ball career up in smoke, just like that, and he has NO ONE to blame but himself. (SMH)
raheem
August 25, 2018 at 10:36 pm
3 years of prison is excessive. an 18 year old kid should be punished, not destroyed. his athletic career is over, his chance of receiving an athletic scholarship after 3 years in prison is not going to happen. if not probation, then 1 year in prison would have been sufficient punishment to leave a slim chance for the kid to get an athletic scholarship to pursue his goals. those dreams will be over if he goes to prison for 3 years, which is why he passed out when he heard the sentence. if the kid is not mentally unstable, then he made a mistake and should be punished, not destroyed at 18.
Max-A-Million
August 26, 2018 at 12:51 am
Come on Raheem, do you actually think him not having a pro ball career will destroy him? As I responded to you in my earlier post, this may be exactly the outcome Mr. Farmer needed because his momma could be making funeral arrangements for him. And I know plenty of men that if that had been their daughter, that’s exactly what his momma WOULD have been doing! You talk about Mr. Farmer “making a mistake”, what mistake? He sought her out and beat the hell out of her at the place where she resided and he knew what he went there for. Again, what mistake? Yall we need stop making excuses for bad behavior. We know we live in a Racist society, we know the system is Unjust, but how long are we going to use slavery as an excuse for the massive number of Black men incarcerated. Slavery didn’t put them there, their actions did. Trust me there’s a successful life beyond pro athletics, people live it everyday. But of course that also depends on what you consider success.
raheem
August 26, 2018 at 1:37 pm
try reading comprehension, i don’t have a problem with an 18 year old kid being held accountable and punished..my concern is with the 3 years of prison time.
and yes, you can destroy an 18 year old kid if you take away his dream by sending him to prison for 3 years. a college athletic scholarship is for four years..he will be in prison for 3, you do the math!
he most likely will never play college basketball at a division 1 school, nor have a chance to play professionally. you make a lot of assumptions about the kid and his family without any facts..stop trying to impose your way of life and thinking on what is good or bad for this kid. nothing about the kids criminal history or family were given in the article…so stop with your anecdotal assumptions, you know about the kid.
stay on topic..the question is about the amount of prison time given to the kid. you come out as callous, arrogant and elitist in your thoughts. we are taking about an 18 year old kid, not some 30 year old man with a criminal record. if you think 3 years is fair, i respect your opinion, but stop with the arrogance and denigration of the kid and his family with knowing the facts.
Eric Gore
September 12, 2021 at 7:27 am
I agree. Any sympathy should be reserved for the victim. Mr. Farmer made a choice, but unfortunately for him and the victim, he made the wrong one. He could have stayed home, watched some tapes of his basketball games, went with another girl, ate some pizza, went to the movies, etc… He chose to go and beat up a defenseless woman. Which is the only one of those choices that could have ended up with him in prison. But it didn’t. He still was out free after that, and chose to threaten the victim instead of doing one of the other things. You want us to cry for him because he lost a basketball career? No way. He THREW it all away. It wasn’t that his dreams were smashed or didn’t materialize like so many other people who can’t even consider the NBA. I realize it is really subjective, if you are his family, you of course don’t want him to go to prison, but if you are the family of the victim, you might have another opinion. If he did that to my daughter…hey you know what? PRAISE THE LORD FOR JUSTICE
Derrick
August 24, 2018 at 11:59 am
No sympathy for this negroid! However, I will say that, Mike Vick received two years for ‘dog abuse’, but this brother got three years for domestic abuse!
What’s more valuable, a dog or a Black woman’s life! According to the pigs, a dog has more value than a Black hue-man! He should’ve gotten jail time, but as we can see; when a Black man causes harm to a four legged beast; it does not compare to a two legged hue-man. A DOG HAS MORE RIGHTS THAN A HUE-MAN!!!
“Judge Pamela Barker attributes Farmer’s violent rage caught on camera and his threats to Lane following the court’s ‘no contact’ order to her reason for sending him to prison for three years.”
As y’all can see; he broke his ‘no contact’ order! He was given a chance to STAY AWAY from the victim, but he went and beat her anyway!!!
This is a no brainer; three years ain’t no time for beating a woman the way he beat his ex-girlfriend. Perhaps he will have 3 years to think about how he fvcked up and will not do it again!
Some people say prison changed their lives for the better; while others say the opposite. You cannot blame YOUR CRIME on anything, especially when you committed that crime, and was given a chance to change and stay away from trouble.
HARD TIME AND TOUGH LOVE MAY BE HIS DOSE OF MEDICINE TO CURE HIM!!!
Maria Lloyd
August 24, 2018 at 12:48 pm
@Derrick: Are you referring to the same “tough love” the slave masters imposed upon our ancestors? Yea… That really worked, didn’t it?
In fact, it’s still in effect to date. It has a new name: Prison.
Derrick
August 24, 2018 at 7:00 pm
Evidently, you didn’t comprehend my comment about ‘tough love’. Let me break it down to ya!
His family needs to show him some ‘tough love’ because HE COMMITTED THIS CRIME ON SOMEBODY, WHO ALSO HAD A FAMILY!
His familly knows he was wrong, but since he is their family member, of course they’re gonna say the sentence was too long, BUT, what if the table was turned around; what if she beat the crap out of him, how would they feel, then?
If I had a family member, who did bodily harm to somebody’s family member, I would show ‘tough love’ toward them; I would still love them as a person, but I would HATE the crime they committed…that’s ‘tough love’.
In the prison complex…there is NO LOVE. This is what he needs because he cut off his ‘love’ when he beat his ex-girlfriend. YOU DON’T BEAT SOMEBODY YOU LOVE!
A MAN DON’T BEAT A WOMAN; IF HE’S A MAN!!!
Tough titty said the kitty; when the milk was gone!
Maria Lloyd
August 24, 2018 at 7:07 pm
Derrick what do you know about his family dynamics? Have you heard his mother speak? Is his father actively involved in his life?
If you can answer the questions above with a URL supporting your knowledge of his family, please share.
Thank you.
Derrick
August 25, 2018 at 6:43 am
What would his mother’s words have to do with the crime, he committed on his girlfriend? The majority of mother’s always come to the defense of their sons or daughters when they do something bad.
You’ve heard it before; ‘my son is a good boy’ or ‘he wouldn’t do anything like this’ and ‘we didn’t raise him to be that way’…these words are repeated all the time by mothers, who have been hurt when their sons or daughters did something wrong!
I don’t know if the father was in his life or not! Regardless, the brother did a horrible crime to another hueman being. I’m sure, if he would’ve beaten your daughter; you would be singing a different tune!
AM I RIGHT?
Maria Lloyd
August 25, 2018 at 1:14 pm
Derrick,
Once again you’re lost in your own words…
“His familly knows he was wrong, but since he is their family member, of course they’re gonna say the sentence was too long, BUT, what if the table was turned around; what if she beat the crap out of him, how would they feel, then?”
My response was in response to the above statement you made. Again, you have yet to provide any support, e.g. URLs, to support your ASSumptions about his family and their response to his sentence.
You know absolutely nothing about his family dynamics. You’re simply writing ill-informed remarks about this guy. Stop while you’re ahead, sir.
Derrick
August 25, 2018 at 11:31 pm
@marie:
I have come to the conclusion that you are retarded!
PLEASE GET HELP! We don’t need anymore mentally ill people on the streets!!!
Maria Lloyd
August 26, 2018 at 12:57 am
@Derrick:
And I’ve come to the conclusion that I will not be addressing you anymore. What grown “man” deduces the conversation to calling someone “retarded”?
Is that the best you can do? Brother, hit the books and learn more about your people and the images the media depicts of us every day. After you do that, I will be happy to have a conversation with you about this matter.
Calling me retarded is a clear indication of your ignorance, immaturity, and insensitivity to people whose relatives live with retardation.
Good day, sir.
Derrick
August 28, 2018 at 4:08 am
@Marie:
THE TRUTH HURTS, DON’T IT!!!
Later, you slave!
By the way…don’t tell me shyt aThe government/willie lynch sold those racist klanners those guns!
While, caucasoids tell their slave negroids to turn in their guns, they are buying up the gun stores and gun shops around the world! There is gong to be a race war. This is why these heathens want these negroids to turn in their guns because when the revolution comes; iI guess these negroids gonna drop to their knees, and pray for this unknown ‘god’ to ‘fight’ their battles, eh?
THESE CRACKERS ARE OUT TO KILL US!!!!bout OURstory! Learn how to COMPREHEND my comments; caucasoid gal!
I’ve had a real OURstory book in my hand since the tender age of 4 years young!!!
YOU need to learn you True OURstory and put these caucasoids books down of LOWER LEARNING!
I’M DONE WITH YOUR reTURDED ASS!
Max-A-Million
August 25, 2018 at 3:10 pm
@ Derrick
You said, “What’s more valuable, a dog or a Black woman’s life!”
It’s sad to say but in this society, MONEY! I guarantee you had this dude come from a wealthy background he would have gotten probation and/or community service.
I agree with you 100%, “No sympathy for this negroid!” He’ll have at least 180 days to think about the choices he made.
Independent
August 24, 2018 at 12:35 pm
He got exactly what he deserves CHOICES HAVE CONSEQUENCES!
Mona
August 24, 2018 at 1:32 pm
@Derrick: Are you referring to the same “tough love” the slave masters imposed upon our ancestors? Yea… That really worked, didn’t it?
In fact, it’s still in effect to date. It has a new name: Prison.
So it’s ok to commit crimes and get away with them simply because slavery was imposed upon our ancestors? What kind of reasoning is that? Prison slavery is optional, don’t commit crimes. Stay out of prison.
Maria Lloyd
August 24, 2018 at 1:53 pm
@Mona:
Did you read the article? Because if you did, you’d know I’m not implying that the kid should “get away” with his crime… I’m stating he should receive punishment that will change his frame of thinking and ensure that when he walks out of prison three years from now, he’s a better man coming out than he was going in.
Derrick
August 24, 2018 at 7:11 pm
The slave maker didn’t show ‘tough love’; they showed HATRED toward our enslaved brothers and sisters! Therefore, your comment is out in left field!
What really works on negroids is SELF HATE! The slave maker taught negroid slaves to ‘LOVE ANOTHER’, INSTEAD OF LOVE ONE ANOTHER…and this is in full effect today! These negroids LOVE caucasoids, but HATE each other! Are you a hater?
Remember, there are over 80% of Black men in prison, who have committed non-felony crimes, and they are FIRST offenders, so watch what rolls off your tongue when it comes to the incarceration of Black men!
The prison system is the NEW PLANTATION! And there are a lot of lost brothers, who commit crimes, that need to be behind bars, BUT there are a lot of racist pigs, who need to be behind bars, also; that have shot down INNOCENT BLACK MEN!!!
WASN’T IT A CRIME TO RAPE, SODOMIZE, HANG, BURN, KILL AND MOLEST BLACK PEOPLE, like these caucasoid did to our people, but none of them spent ONE DAY in jail for these atrociites toward our people!
DON’T JUST READ WHAT I TYPE; COMPREHEND WHAT I SAY!!!
Maria Lloyd
August 24, 2018 at 7:21 pm
“And there are a lot of lost brothers, who commit crimes, that need to be behind bars..”
How can you- on one hand- condemn Caucasians for teaching our people “self hate”, but turn around and refer to black men who are incarcerated as “lost brothers” and say they “need” to be incarcerated? Are the “lost brothers” not the products of the self hate that you’re crediting Caucasians for?
You are among the lost, Derrick. You are lost in your own thoughts.
Derrick
August 25, 2018 at 6:33 am
lol! Do I need to give you a lesson on HATERISM, which is nothing, but SELF-HATE?
You know, and I know, that a lot of lost brothers are in jail THAT NEED TO BE IN JAIL. I am referring to the brothers, who never had a record, or who was busted for selling weed or some other petty crime.
These are the brothers, that can be SAVED because they DID NOT MURDER anybody, like some of the brothers, THAT NEED TO BE BEHIND BARS, THAT KILLED SOMEONE!!!
THINK! THINK! THINK! There’s a difference between, putting a Black man in prison for a petty crime versus putting a Black man in jail for BEATING HIS WOMAN OR KILLING SOMEBODY OVER A PAIR OF SNEAKERS!
Do the math and get back with me!
Mona
August 24, 2018 at 2:00 pm
This girl wanted to break up with him and he beat her in an unsolicted attack, she was granted a restraining order which he mocked and said he should have done worse to her than he already had done! That fact that he is so surprised and shocked that he got jail time is honestly shocking. You viciously beat a woman cowering in a corner and who was trying to RUN away!!! That was a time to walk away of his own accord and sign up for some counseling services. I love how you in one breath villify the “slavemasters” for imprisoning him yet expect them to counsel him on the error of his ways? Which is it? If you don’t want to be at the mercy of the “slavemasters” don’t do the crime!
Maria Lloyd
August 24, 2018 at 2:13 pm
“I love how you in one breath villify the “slavemasters” for imprisoning him yet expect them to counsel him on the error of his ways? Which is it?”
Oh, there aren’t any therapists of color?
Actually, the better solution would’ve been for him to have been raised in a two-parent household, in which that behavior was condemned. Or if he’s the product of a single parent, for him to have had great male role-models to steer him on the right path, but I’m pretty sure that’s not the case here, Mona.
Mona
August 24, 2018 at 2:29 pm
I clearly was referring to the Judge and the fact that the Judical system and judge and ruling lawmakers are the supposed “slavemasters.” You are not supposed to expect any type of positive support from them, correct? That’s nuts, don’t expect any type of leeway from the very people who are supposedly trying to run you down.
He didn’t grow up in a two parent home, he needed a better role model etc. etc…at which point does HE take up the responsibility and say, “I was wrong.” You can only help those who want to help themselves. I’m not down with Blackistan. I’m not willing to climb into a lion’s cage to tame the beasts at cost to myself and my own. At this point I can only say that I’m glad the Judge saw through all his BS and his disrespect of the RO and sentenced him as she saw fit. More than likely he will serve six months and be released. The ball will be in his court at that point, that’s all I’m saying about it. Our viewpoints are extremely different on this matter and I’m glad it was able to be discussed without name calling or backbiting.
Maria Lloyd
August 24, 2018 at 2:58 pm
Actually Mona, the law is supposed to set a better standard for the population, so it is the judicial system’s duty to ensure the safety of all parties involved. This is why I don’t support the death penalty. The law should set a better standard for punishing people- not promote murder- but that’s a different conversation for a different topic.
He takes responsibility when he knows better. What most people don’t realize about our young men and women is their entire lives have been shaped by TV and rap music. Parenting is practically obsolete. Single mothers think quarantining their children from their father is helping them, and of course, it’s not. I hope he comes out a better person than he was going in… And I also hope the young lady becomes a better woman from her traumatic experience as well.
Yes, I would assume two women can hold a decent debate about this matter without name calling…
Shari Moore
August 24, 2018 at 10:04 pm
Lock his ass up. He should have thought about that before he put his hands on that girl. You do the crime your ass needs to do the time. I don’t see his name on the special list. Every one that i know that has broken the law has gone to jail including myself so his ass need to be taught a lesson
REV "D"
August 24, 2018 at 11:47 pm
Nothing get a persons attentiion like the loss of time. Has anyone thought about what the victum needs are. He is being rewarded for the sum total of his choices and they happen to be those uncontrolable consequences.
Chris Gibbs
August 25, 2018 at 7:43 am
I loved the dramatic courtroom collapse! He is like all these spoon-fed athletes these days; they think they can get away with anything cuz they can hoop or throw a 95mph fastball. He lost his status before he made it prison. Personal responsibility – Its a bitch…
Even though Maria Lloyd’s father deserves everyday in prison he received, this kid didnt derserve prison because it is a waste of taxpayer money. He deserves a lead-pipe beating, rock-up-side-his-head party with this girl’s family. To walk-up and sucker punch a girl half his size and then continue to beat and humiliate her is the sign of a weak, weak man.
I hope he gets gang-raped the first night in prison.
Maria Lloyd
August 25, 2018 at 11:48 am
@Chris:
Who pissed in your cereal when you were growing up?
To wish a heinous act such as gang rape upon someone you know nothing about- aside from what the media has fed you- is absolutely pitiful.
Your ignorance is unfathomable.
Chris Gibbs
August 25, 2018 at 1:31 pm
I woke up happy with eggs benedict. The fact this guy was so surprised in court shows he thought he was going to get a slap on the wrist. I believe this kid will get off early and probably do it again in the future. His real punishment will be what happens to him in prison. Since his stay will most likely be short; I hope it is filled with bad for him……
You believe what you believe; I believe what I believe.
I read your letter to the judge regarding your dad so don’t judge me when it comes to my view on crime and punishment. Your dad ruined so many lives, yet you tried to turn it back on the judge. It was his “first” offense only because he was a clever enough villain to avoid capture. It was a non-violent offense because he was smart enough to have his minions commit the violence. The fact you chastised the judge and called him out for having the courage to put away a major drug dealer forever was gutless. You solidified my opinion of you. You are like everyone else – You try to take the blame off the offender and blame society, racist or something / someone other than the actual criminal.
Tony Farmer is a spoiled athlete and he got what he deserved. Hopefully he has 3 years to think about it while he is protecting his prison love life and fighting off the rapists.
Maria Lloyd
August 25, 2018 at 3:09 pm
@Chris:
“I believe this kid will get off early and probably do it again in the future.”
Oh, you know him? Does he have a history of criminal activity? If you have factual information on Mr. Farmer that I don’t have, please share. Otherwise, you need to can the ill-informed ASSumptions.
Also, kindly direct your comments about my father’s incarceration on the actual web page it’s on. I prefer to stay on topic.
Chris Gibbs
August 26, 2018 at 5:29 pm
Once again – I will believe what I believe; you believe what you believe.
I bet that if you checked facts and statistics, most men who beat down a woman, have done it before and will do it again.
This dude is going to come out of incarceration either bitter or changed. Hopefully changed. Most likely bitter.
Therefore, based on MY opinion and proven statistics, I BELIEVE this kid will do it again. But let’s hope not.
Miss T
August 25, 2018 at 10:01 am
Repost: First of all the young lady was NOT white…secondly she pleaded with the judge that he needs help. The beating, the testimony, sentencing and judges remarks are all on the Internet. Somewhere in this young man’s life someone failed him. I’m just guessing he was raised by his mother and she probably treated him as if he was going to save them through his promising basketball future. He beat on that girl as if he were entitled. Additionally, he was violating a protection order to stay away from her. Three years is a long time to be incarcerated..period. Thirty days is a long time to be incarcerated. If I were his family I would see to it that there is a positive Black male influence who will regularly visit him to prepare him for the rest of his life when he is released. He needs guidance…that will teach him how to value his OWN life as well as others.
Casey
August 25, 2018 at 12:27 pm
This dude got exactly what he deserved. He made the choice to hunt that girl down, beat her. (Too bad she didn’t know how to defend herself.). I think every woman should take self defense classes and learn how to take a dude out, no matter his size. That’s besides the point.
This is not a race issue so black folks need to stop playing the race card here. This is a young man, who clearly has no self control and has never learned to have any. This type of behavior probably spills over in other aspects of his life. He didn’t just wake up one day and become this violate male.
He deserves jail time. Folks can whine all they want but let’s see how understanding they would be if it were their female relative that got beat down by some fool who couldn’t take rejection. Who has a sense of ‘god like mentality and entitlement.
We need to stop normalizing abuse in the black community. Bottom line: He broke the law, committed a violate crime so he has to do the time. Any other talk is just senseless rhetoric.
Prophetess Essie (@ProphetessEssie)
August 25, 2018 at 2:49 pm
Maria,
You MUST be getting knocked upside your damn head because you sound like a fucking fool! Tony Farmer is in a cage like the ANIMAL he is.
rosemary davis
August 25, 2018 at 7:04 pm
Maria even if she is partially responsible what gives him the right too do what he did I guess you didn’t see the video.It’s true we don’t know the otherside but what we do know is what he did and the proof is in the pudding.I wonder If this was your daughter would you then find excuses I don’t think soo,then you get angry because no one is agreeing with you and by the way I lost my husband at the age of 32 and I raise to responsible children who have grown up too be responsible adults so it’s not about growing up in a single parent home it’s all about training a child at a young age according to the way and when he grow old or grow up he will not depart from it so obvisouly he had no training otherwise he would not be in prison for 3 years.I see why you write on Mr. Boyce website because you have the same mentality as he does.And by the way he got exactly what he deserved so no pity from me and I can assure once he is release he will lay his hand on another woman prison will teach him this
Maria Lloyd
August 25, 2018 at 11:20 pm
@Rosemary:
“…then you get angry because no one is agreeing with you…”
Get angry? I’m intelligent enough to know the difference between an argument and a debate. I’m not getting angry at all. I’m a bit taken aback by the ignorant statements laced with hatred and assumptions, but I’m not angry at all.
There are children who have experienced trauma equivalent to soldiers in Afghanistan, yet when they commit a violent crime, we expect them to magically “know better” and throw them in prison without any tools to help them overcome their post-traumatic experiences. That’s like taking a vicious animal from the Sahara Desert and expecting it to “play nice” in the backyard with your house dog. That ideology is quite silly.
Kerri
August 25, 2018 at 8:49 pm
@Derrick Slavery was a long time ago and there isn’t anything anyone can do about how the white folks didn’t get punished for what they did back then. It’s the past. There is a reason the windshield in your car is bigger than the rear view mirror. It’s because you’re supposed to be looking FORWARD. Slavery was wrong but it happened. No one who was alive then is alive now so how is it that the whites today should be punished for what their ancestors did? If you do something wrong, should your child be punished for it? It’s over. There are plenty of Black folks who made it despite having grown up poor or without a daddy. There are plenty who did NOT choose crime and drugs. It’s a choice. Like what Farmer did…he CHOSE to stalk and beat that girl. Going to prison is a consequence of HIS choices. He is not the victim, he is the offender. Something is wrong in his head for him to think it’s OK to hunt down and hit a woman like that. He’s an animal and he deserves to be in a cage.
Derrick
August 26, 2018 at 11:50 am
I get tired of you people talking about “slavery is over” or “get over it”…SLAVERY AIN’T OVER!!! Black people are still fighting for the same rights we fought and died for 500 years ago, and it’s getting worse!
Do you tell the khazars to forget about when their asses were burning in incinerators? HELL NAW! Because one of those khazars would slice you in half, if you said something like that to them.and animals; we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
I’LL NEVER FORGET WHAT YOU HEATHENS DID TO MY PEOPLE…NEVER!!! And what you are doing to them NOW!!!!
Derrick
August 26, 2018 at 11:53 am
^correction: …if you said something like that to them.
*If you racist demons would’ve acted like hue-mans instead of beasts and animals; we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
moon head
August 25, 2018 at 9:51 pm
I don’t give a damn about his momma, papa, or any other of his family members. He beat the shit out of a woman, and he is headed exactly where he should be heading. This punk is lucky, because if this girl was a member of my family, he’d be headed to his grave. Some of the posters on here have no morals, and blame everything on the white man, but was it a white man, that beat this young girls ass? If this was a white boy that did this to a white girl, he’d probably, and should get the same sentence, so why shouldn’t this bastard go to jail, because he’s black, or an promising basketball player? Well, now his momma will have to earn her own damn money, and not depend on a women beater.
raheem
August 25, 2018 at 10:08 pm
come on now, if this was a 18 year old white kid with scholarships offers to division schools, i assure you he would have received counseling and probation instead of 3 years of prison.
Maria Lloyd
August 25, 2018 at 11:26 pm
Raheem,
Thank you for having a brain and sharing it with the world. When white kids commit crimes, something’s wrong with them… When black kids commit crimes, they were born criminals…
The European media has brainwashed our people so much that we actually believe that violence in black men is innate.
Pitiful.
raheem
August 26, 2018 at 2:02 pm
they have our own people thinking black men are animals. like the young white male who shot up the movie theater, there are mentally sick people in every race. the only difference, when it’s a black male, they never allow mental illness to be the motive behind the crime. but when white, mental illness is permitted to understand why a young person commits a crime. some of us have become like white people when a black commits a crime, we see hate, not mental illness! when white, they convince us to see mental illness and compassion.
Derrick
August 26, 2018 at 12:00 pm
I agree with you totally. But, let’s keep it righteous; HE’S A BLACK MAN and is front of racist judges and lawyers, that don’t give a damn about his ‘athletic’ ability. He’s just another ‘slave’ in front of them, and they’re gonna do all they can, to ‘hang’ him in the court room.
A white boy has privileges, and his rights are protected under ‘their’ law because, they are caucasoids. That cracker; zimmerboy is a perfect examle how the court system works against Black men, even when they are INNOCENT!!!
Black men should know, if they commit crimes; there is no such thing as EQUAL JUSTICE when they commit acts against caucasoids, especially a caucasoid gal.
raheem
August 26, 2018 at 1:44 pm
agree with you that black men should know, but in this case we have become immune to the white system in believing that our 18 year old black males should be treated like 30 year old black men. 18 year olds do not have the mental capacity of a 30 year old…but they sentence our young black males like adults in the criminal system. white kids are treated like…well kids, not adults!
Kerri
August 25, 2018 at 11:07 pm
@ moon head >>>>>>applause
d-rhyme
August 26, 2018 at 12:33 am
Native Americans had no jails. Explain this without sounding like a white supremacist. Moses said atonement not punishment is needed for crime. I bet if he had to pay her millions all would be happy except for judges and lawyers who get nothing. Crime is profit for them. That’s why prison exists.
Derrick
August 26, 2018 at 11:35 am
The FIRST prisons were occupied and built by the romans/greeks! They were called dungeons, and these criminals were thrown in the dungeon when they committed crimes!
Afrikans NEVER had prisons because at one time in ancient Black OURstory; there was NO CRIME! It was a peaceful world when Blacks once ruled the world!
Not until the caucasoids brought their religion of xtianity to the world; that’s when rapes, killings, hangings and other bodacious atrociities were introduced to Ancient Black Afrikans.
OURstory goes back MILLIONS/BILLIONS of years when no caucasoids existed on the planet!
WE WERE A LOVING, CARING AND SHARING PEOPLE…this is what we need to get back to…LOVE OF SELF!!!
IT’S THE ONLY WAY…PERIOD!
raheem
August 26, 2018 at 1:54 pm
@ d rhyme
thank you, everyone is so focused on the crime and not the punishment. more black men in jail than college…wake up people. prison is the new plantation…free labor. the kid should be punished, but we better wake up and start looking at why the long prison time for our black males…somebody is making money off of our black men being locked down in prison. for this kid, if not probation, no more than one year would have benn sufficient.
L W O
August 26, 2018 at 5:27 pm
d-rhyme, I don’t know what Bible or Torah you’ve been reading, but Moses and the people of his time were punished. You need to do some serious study of the scriptures. There is punishment throughout the entire books. We are given an opportunity to repent or atone for our sins, but that doesn’t mean that we don’t have to suffer consequences.
d-rhyme
August 30, 2018 at 12:39 pm
Punished by pharoah. The slave master. You gave no exact citations. Romans imprisoned. They were slave masters too. Cherokees and Masai had no jails prior to colonialism. Vengeance is mine. That’s biblical. Those are the facts. Your argument is baseless.
d-rhyme
August 26, 2018 at 12:36 am
He will be worse when he gets out. He is a sick child. Needs treatment.
d-rhyme
August 26, 2018 at 1:01 am
He is seriously mentally ill. Prison however is not treatment. Interesting how violent mentally ill people love incarceration as punishment. Violence does not cure violence. IT MAKES IT WORSE. He is a a danger and needs institutionalization.
raheem
August 26, 2018 at 2:06 pm
keep hitting these blind negroes in the head with the truth!
d-rhyme
August 26, 2018 at 1:08 am
Violence as the solution to problems creates Tony farmers everywhere. Watch the news. Lawyers and judges nay want it but we all are at risk. Video games. Cartoons all violent. There is profit in violence. War. Must I continue. Rome is burning. You can sit in praise of Cesar. Or you can start by chsinging your self. All you psychos who want to kick his azz.
raheem
August 26, 2018 at 2:20 pm
keep speaking the truth..if i may add, hurt people..hurt people. from the video, one can see this kid is mentally unstable and need some professional help.
i bet you that white judege/prosecutor never ordered the kid to take mental disorder test to evaluate his mental capacities before giving him 3 years.
interesting how the white judges and prosecutors recommend mental testing for white kids before sentencing. black males are considered animals, no test needed for validation, prison is the solution to their mental problems.
Taritaritari5
August 26, 2018 at 7:17 am
Okay, admission of guilt, says, one knows they are wrong.
Racial?
Some of all colors, ethnicities, class levels (financially, educationally), have committed these same wrongful acts.
Teach the youth the law and make sure they understand it, have them act it out and have mock trials, so they can know the consequences.
Men have beat on women since cave man time, especially when a woman decides to leave or follow her own pursuits.
Why not have more research and training on the subject: why do men of any color, feel that they have to beat a woman.
Go to the root of the problem!
This is not about black or white, someone did not understand the consequences of this type of crime. Wishing gang rape is stupidness because you are wishing for the perpetuating of more criminal acts to be committed. I understand your feelings, but do not wish for more crime, just because it will be at prison!
When more crime happens at prison and the person shall be released, they may become so psychologically sick and commit more crimes in open society. Pray for them to be taught wrong from right!
Many women and men silently, suffer from abuse or death, because of someones since of feeling that they will get away with it or truthfully that person is psychologically unliberated!
Now that the idea about privatizing prisons has come about, start thinking about how one can profit from funding to create prisons that shall truly rehabilitate one from ignorance and be owned and operated by the very people of categories of race, religion, gender, creed and politics that are being affected!
Yes, he was wrong, something happened that caused it.
Let’s get to the root of the problem so we can prevent it in the future!
We are paying for crimes committed from a long time ago against one and many. Let’s not follow these patterns but eradicate (uproot them) from society. Let’s not repeat this!
Get to the children early, do not glorify the wrongs, teach and learn. It shouldn’t take money only, to teach and learn.
We must address all wrongs in our society: racially, genderwise, religion based etc.
Rihanna, a star, went through this with Chris Brown, a star!
Tina Turner, a star went through this with Ike!
Halle Berry, going through hell for her child!
Brittany Spears, lost it for a while!
Jennifer Lopez, experienced infidelity by her husband!
May his family and friends remain supportive and stand by his side and for the woman’s side, may her family and friends remain supportive!
Carla
August 26, 2018 at 8:05 am
very disappointed in this piece…prison is not for rehab its for punishment. that’s the reality. its bad enough that he assaulted this young woman. but, then he brazenly ignored the restraining order by even contacting the victim. then, he took it a step further by threatening the victim. so far, that’s at least 3 different crimes. when the restraining order was issued he was made aware of the consequences of violating it. violating it is simply making contact…ANY contact.i have 2 sons whom i love very much but i will NOT make excuses for their bad behavior and women/mothers who do are partially to blame for this. if my sons choose this behavior they have been made well aware that they choose the consequences. i would continue to love,counsel,and pray for them.however, i will not condone negativity. is the judicial fair or impartial to black men? not normally. but, right is right and wrong is wrong. btw- i have an uncle who is a beater who has been in and out of jail/prison for decades until finally he murdered someone and guess who told the police where to find his arse??? his long-suffering battered wife and i say oh well. its funny how this kid was ‘man’ enough to beat her and terrorize her after the fact but when they convicted him he fainted. now that’s a real man…
raheem
August 26, 2018 at 2:27 pm
what..we have to wait until he is age 25/30 before we realize that if someone is acting crazy..then maybe he is really crazy? you mention how crazy he was acting…maybe he was acting! he is 18, get the kid some help before it’s too late..and i’m not talking about 3 years of prison help!
d-rhyme
August 26, 2018 at 2:52 pm
Carla said her uncle was a beater and been in and out of prison. Then he murdered someone. PRISON MADE HIM WORSE!!!!!. TURNED A BEATER INTO A MURDERER. I REST MY CASE.
Miriam
August 26, 2018 at 9:50 am
Ms. Lloyd,
I respectfully disagree with your position and I give this article 100 milllion thumbs down. I feel ***honor bound*** to do so.
1. Black women and girls are entitled to the same human rights, and protections from our legal system as other races of women. We are not obligated to forefit our rights in order to support racial unity. We have the right to choose our gender over our race. This choice is an individual choice not a “group” choice.
2. We are NOT a monolothic group. All black people (evidenced in this commentary) do not share the same values, standards, culture, or belief systems. Being the victim of racism, sexisim, classism, Islamphobia, Anti-Semitism, xenophobia, or any other illegal/immoral form of abuse is not a justification to violate the law. Our ancestor Dr. King demonstrated the proper methods of addressing legitmate grievances, and pursuing justice.
3. Black women and girls like all other races of women have the right to confront, and challenge the culture of hate/violence/disrespect rampant in black male culture. Black women and girls like all other races of women have the right to ask for legal, financial, and even political accountability.
4. Any woman/girl of any races who supports systems of domination, violence, entrapment, and abuse are male identified women who can not be trusted or respected.
Black women and girls do not owe black men/boys anything beyond common courtsey/respect.
shingding
August 26, 2018 at 11:46 am
I agree there two sides to every story. In this instance:
1) The ex girlfriend exercised her right to not be with Farmer
2) Farmer attacks and kidnaps her, UNPROVOKED, all caught on camera
shingding
August 26, 2018 at 11:48 am
Wrong; prison DOES work. It protects society from people who are dangerous, like farmer!
raheem
August 26, 2018 at 2:32 pm
you say: prison DOES work. It protects society from people who are dangerous, like farmer!
i think you meant to say, it protects society from BLACK people who are dangerous, like farmer! we both know there are two criminal justice systems…one black…one white!
RiLLuMiNaTi
August 26, 2018 at 12:09 pm
Maria Lloyd…. Your bias in your opinion because as you said, “your entire family has been incarcerated” ….. This nigga was dead wrong. You look retarded as a female defending this…. And argueing with your audience to defend your defending it. Lol…. You look like a dog chasing its tail and gettin nowhere… If it was a white boy who got probation, you would be calling for his emprisonment…. A persons family dynamics doesnt account for everything, especially in this day and age…. A person raised by skin heads should not just get counseling and probation for a hate crime against another race…. There is no difference in this scenario…. This dude was highly aware of the risks involved in attacking his girl… And he knew he had more to lose than the average person…
d-rhyme
August 26, 2018 at 2:57 pm
Please read example Carla gave of her uncle.
rosemary davis
August 27, 2018 at 11:59 am
Maria I just read your response to my comment I am not asking that anyone agree with my comment and I am certainly not asking for your approval you want feedback on your articles and we the public tell it as we see it unlike you I don’t use excuses as too why an individual committ a crime.and yes prison may not rehabilitate all but it can and do help those who want too be helped so that they can led productive lives once they are release.I am assuming that you are a professional writer and if so young lady my suggestion too you is to act that way and stop insulting your readers when they don’t agree with you we can have a civil discussion without the name calling. and going head too head seeing who can get the best punch.Show respect first and foremost for yourself and others will respect you.
Nightjar
August 27, 2018 at 12:33 pm
Yes the brotha needs to first acknowledge he has a problem, then he will be able to get the help he needs. Second, yes I think the judge was lenient with him for what he did. Third, I think the brotha should be glad that was not my daughter, sister, niece, cousin, aunt or any female in my family, because, these people would be reading an article about how a man beat a young up and coming basketball star within an inch of his life. You wanna fight,I know plenty of young brother in Brownsville ready to accommodate you. Get at em.
john
August 27, 2018 at 9:03 pm
The guy should have went to jail. He showed no remorse and he beat the hell out of the girl.
If given probation, he probably would have beat another female.
As I learned long ago, some people need to be in prison whether their Black, White, Hispanic, etc..
This is not the case to question basis against Blacks in the judicial system.
GREG L
August 27, 2018 at 9:32 pm
Until I saw the film, I thought the judge was being unduly harsh but with the video and the judge’s explanation, I think justice was done. Too often these ball players are put up on a pedestal by the public which leads them to believe that they can get away with anything. This is this young man’s case and that’s why he was so incredulous at the idea he actually had to go to jail. The girlfriend may have some guilt feelings, but it’s really not her fault. The guy made his bed, so let him lie in it. This also sends a clear message to other ball players that you just can’t do as you please. Justice was served here.
Antoine
August 28, 2018 at 12:07 am
Bla,bla,bla,bla. He’s black he beat a woman he had a future,
Now he’s going to jail. Future averted. Blacks helped and cheered. No attempts for any other form of punishment that would prevent him from repeating this crime. No mental defense. No counseling.. He’s black whites want his future gone. Blacks want him to pay rather than helped. When of he ever gets out of prison.. Did the punishment fit the crime. Should he be raped, lose his scholarship, not be eligible for finial aide and therefore not able to go to school, not be able to find a job cause he’s a ex con. All because of a very bad mistake that opened the door for many people to pay him back in a very undeserving way including strangers whom have nothing to dwith the situation.
I fell regret for what’s going to happen to him. I’m very sorry for what’s happened to her and even worst for what’s happened to us.
Ddre
August 28, 2018 at 12:16 pm
The article should have read:
“Why Mammy Azz Black Women and Shift-Footed Black Males Should NOT Continue To Coddle Black Male Degenerates”
He deserved his sentence and he really deserved more. At this point, I’m sick of all this excuse-making for this retarded looking idiot who had the audacity to fall out on the floor for a three-year sentence.
His basketball future is in tatters and it’s all his fault.
Don’t cry for him. He, and many other black male criminals deserve no such sympathy.
Shocked B
August 28, 2018 at 5:53 pm
I’m really shocked why anyone would think this kid SHOULDN’T pay for his crimes. He deserves to be punished for what he did. He wasn’t defending himself. He was nothing more than an oversized bully who was pissed off at this young woman and took it out on her with his fists and feet!
It doesn’t take rocket science for any person to know when they are breaking the law. This oversized kid viscisouly attacked his ex-girlfriend. Let me break it down why this 18 year old should go to jail.
1) He entered the young lady’s apartment complex – HIT her in the head, causing her to fall over, chased her around her lobby, STOMPING on her several times, dragging her out of the building by her hair before she got away from him.
2) When she tried to get back into the building, he kicked her at least four more times and tried to drag her out of the building AGAIN.
3) He violated a protection order put in place to keep her safe from his triffling ass and threatened her via phone calls and text messages stating…”He should have done more to her when he had a chance.”
4) The young victim was traumatized by Farmer’s actions and the judge was not swayed.
5) This kid was never remorseful because if he were, then he would have stayed clear of her and started some kind of counseling for himself.
He’s old enough to know that what he did was wrong, instead of falling out in the court room because the fear of going to jail overwhelmed him. In fact, he should have thought about that before he made a conscious effort to seek this young lady out and beat her visciously.
He was found guilty of the viscious attack and kidnapping. He is lucky that he didn’t get at least 25 to life for kidnapping alone. What is most disturbing to me is that when it comes to a man beating up on a woman, then no one should pay for their crime. As yourself the question….why should anyone EVER think they should get off for beating up another individual?
d-rhyme
August 30, 2018 at 12:49 pm
SHOCKED B. Insight and self analysis will show that you are just like Farmer. He punished the girl for something she did in his view. The law should teach that violence is wrong. Somebody must use their head not force or violence at some point.
d-rhyme
August 30, 2018 at 12:52 pm
Do you know anything about mental illness?
Jessica
September 16, 2018 at 5:51 pm
“2. We’ve only seen one side of the story.”
Foolishness . . .
Ekanem
September 22, 2018 at 7:48 am
Ms Maria Lloyd, I’m not sure what to make of your article. I apologise if you feel I am being presumptuous but you obviously have had no dealings with abuse in any way shape or form. Because if you had, you would not write this article. If you had, you’d have had him hanged. I come from such a family where violence was the norm. Our legacy from my father now is that my brother feels it’s okay to beat women (Chris Brown anyone) and violence is the answer to everything. I’m glad he got three years. Hopefully this will teach him and others like him a lesson. I must say that I don’t think it will though…not if he’s surrounded by people like you who will help him blame the system and not himself.
Maria Lloyd
September 22, 2018 at 9:49 am
What’s very disappointing to writers is when people write comments based solely off of the headline, instead of reading the article thoroughly to acquire an understanding of the writer’s thinking…
I have stated over and over that the kid deserves punishment, but the punishment should be one that is going to change the scope of his thinking. Prison alone will not do that for him.
If your emotions overcome your ability to read this article objectively, keep it moving. I’m interested in having dialogue with people who are able to read the content objectively.
In other words, I’m interested in having a conversation with intellects who read and research information.
BlackProsecutor
November 18, 2018 at 6:47 pm
Having worked in the criminal justice field and having dealt with Domestic Violence cases for a few year now, I totally disagree and agree with this article in a couple of ways. Should he have an opportunity to get help, Yes. However the fact that he violated a court order with stated that he could not contact this victim and then THREATENED her leads me to believe that he would not have been a good candidate for probation. Probation means you have to follow court orders and if he couldn’t follow a simple admonition to NOT contact the victim, I doubt he could have survived a probationary period. Additionally, you can only help those that want help themselves. He clearly beat this woman senseless, was caught and arrested and then told her he should have done worse when he had the chance. If I missed the moment where he showed the slightest sign of remorse for his actions BEFORE he was sentenced please point it out. If anyone is to blame for his situation it’s Mr. Farmer.
Patman
January 5, 2019 at 11:28 pm
Hey Maria, you never did answer the question another poster asked. If this had happened to your daughter, would you still feel the same? Would we still be hearing this pity pity the poor criminal BS and would you still be sympathizing with this woman beating piece of trash? Bet you wouldn’t.
Maria Lloyd
January 7, 2019 at 9:40 am
@Patman:
I never saw the question. But if you really want to know, my perspective would remain the same. This isn’t about having a pity party for the young man, it’s about understanding the root of issues and fixing them — as opposed to simply quarantining individuals suffering from mental health disorders.
Continue to let the media tell you that your brothers are wild animals and deserve prison time. I choose to know better.
Patman
April 6, 2019 at 10:11 am
Maria, where in the hell did I suggest that black men in general are wild animals? You did exactly what you accuse those who disagree with you of doing, not reading the whole thing an putting stuff in there that wasn’t even there. I’m a black man with two black sons and while I’m going to teach them about this country’s racist past and present, they’re also going to know right from wrong and going to know that actions have consequences. If you want to pity the poor oppressed victim who would beat your daughter, fine, but if I had a daughter and if any “man” put his hands on her, he’d be dead before the first pretrial hearing. Black men in general are not wild animals who deserve prison time but Tony Farmer is and he ha no one to blame but himself.
Patman
April 6, 2019 at 10:17 am
And how about showing your love and support for poor poor oppressed Tony Farmer by taking him into your home when he’s released, funding his college education, if he chooses to go, feeding and clothing him and doing it all for no profit. Unless you’re willing to do all that, spare us your ride or die BS.
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Kevin
July 26, 2020 at 2:16 pm
Is cuz she white point blank his gurl was white this shit fuk up.. I kno ppl wit 5 yr probation becuz they had a gun on em he gettin 3 yrs for hittin a white girl fuk da system racist ass white ppl he should of got 5 yr probation he luv dat bitch wen u luv sum1 n u gettin plyed u do dum fuckin shit .fuk em crackers n any1 thinks he deserve jail time for that .that was very fuk up wat he did but 3 yrs cum on fuk u die slow white bitch judge hell gonna have fun wit u bitch
james
January 4, 2021 at 11:05 pm
We get more breaks than we deserve. The prison system would not be ai large and lucrative if we didn’t commit so much crime! It’s always someone or something that caused us to commit the crime, onre parent household, poor education, the company we kept! It’s always something! It’s never our own fault!
We all have free will, we all know right from wrong! He will be only 21 when he gets out of prison, if he wants he can figure out how to make a 100 million dollars!.
He did the crime, he can do the time, and is lucky he didn’t get 7- 10
years.