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New Book Rips Veil, Reveals Gandhi Was A Racist Who Hated Black Africans

April V. Taylor

When people think of Mahatma Gandhi, many think of a man who pioneered non-violent social justice movements, with such leaders as Nelson Mandela and Martin Luther King Jr., citing him as inspiration for their own non-violent movements. What many fail to realize is that Gandhi was actually a racist who had a strong disdain for Black Africans, and those little known views are revealed in the new book “The South African Gandhi: Stretcher-Bearer of Empire” by Ashwin Desai and Goolem Vahed.

Desai and Vahed quote statements directly from Gandhi to prove their point, and what they uncover is that not only did Gandhi express racist attitudes towards Africans, he also expressed classist prejudice towards indentured Indians and supported the British Empire and its use of war to further colonize and conquer other peoples.

The authors state, “He served as stretcher-bearer in the war between Brit and Boer, demanded that Indians be allowed to carry fire-arms, and recruited volunteers for the imperial army in both England and India during the First World War.”

For a man who was once praised by Nelson Mandela to now be revealed as a person who sought to have Indians included in South African society while seeking to exclude Blacks is mind boggling for many. The Washington Post points out that Gandhi referred to Black Africans as “savage,” and referred to the lives they lived as those of “indolence and nakedness.”  His end goal seemed to be to prove that Indians in South Africa were superior to Black Africans.

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Much of Gandhi’s racism was revealed in his push to have Indians classified as something different from native, believing that only Blacks deserved to be relegated to that substandard class.

Arundhati Roy, an author who endorses the book, spoke with Firstpost, calling the book a “serious challenge to the way we have been taught to think about Gandhi,” pointing out that he defended India’s caste system and its oppression of women.  She goes on to state, “This is a wonderful demonstration of meticulously researched, evocative, clear-eyed and fearless history-writing. It uncovers a story, some might even cal it a scandal, that has remained hidden in plain sight for far too long.”

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  1. rod

    September 16, 2015 at 11:52 am

    How is this any different than black American soldiers killing black people in Africa. Last time looked we have black men serving in Africa and are willing to kill Africans for the United States at the drop of a hat. Libya is a African country and I’m sure those planes that bombed the crap out of that country had black people involved. And it was a black Obama that ordered the bombing. Gandhi was a British subject at the time he was no different than the current state of black people in America . The difference is he played the game until the time was right to rebel against the power structure of the British Empire. What he did to bring the British to their knees without violence is unprecedented. The man took control of his country by getting people to not cooperate with the British Empire. By taking control of the revenue that normally went to British business and making sure that money stayed in Indian hands, kind of what black people are trying to do now. If you are going to criticize gandhi for doing the same thing black people in American armed forces are currently doing today it seems hypocritical. Gandhi didn’t kill one single black person he felt it was his duty to serve as a stretcher bearer in a war that was not of his doing. A side note to the author of this book. India has a element in its borders that are a part of the corporate elite that want the gandhi legend gone. The western forces that ruled that country prior to their independence have waited for a opportunity to get back in power. They have a corporate elite that’s using intellectual sellouts to do their bidding similar to what we have here in America. The fact that India has the spinning loom on its flag which is a symbol of the Indians resistance to British rule, still irritates the global elites. Gandhi had the people of India make their own clothes so they would not have to buy British goods. The spinning loom is how they made the cloth. We can take lessons from the gandhi Era and apply them to today’s struggle. There is a war going on for your social conscious and this is another example of creating controversial subjects without context.

    • Jah Larry Dread

      September 16, 2015 at 4:54 pm

      I agree: “By taking control of the revenue that normally went to British business and making sure that money stayed in Indian hands, kind of what black people are trying to do now”…WHAT BLACK PEOPLE IN THE USA SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING!

      • Carol

        September 16, 2015 at 5:11 pm

        @ Jah Larry Dread

        Nonsense! Black people have done that – Black Wall Street – and white people burn down the community.

        There are some black people who continue to do that. I do it. Please remember we live in North America – a multi-cultural and multi-racial society. India on the other hand is monolithic society. However, that doesn’t mean that Indians in North America don’t do business with each other. In fact, a white man, with disdain, pointed this out to me. In any case, South Asians have had centuries of practice. Blacks have not. And when we have, white people became jealous and burned down a thriving black community.

        Black people are on that road again. Black people are becoming more conscious of where they are spending their money.

      • Tyrone Thomas

        September 16, 2015 at 6:56 pm

        Thank you for your observation and insight on how to turn the economic card game around and in the Black People’s favor. The question of how has already been answered but is being ignored or has not yet gained enough celebrity or political attention for the masses to support. It is called United Shared Savings Network. It is solutions that we need…not just more conversations or empty promises from our political and community leaders.

    • Carol

      September 16, 2015 at 4:57 pm

      @ Rod

      “How is this any different than black American soldiers killing black people in Africa. Last time looked we have black men serving in Africa and are willing to kill Africans for the United States at the drop of a hat. Libya is a African country…”

      You contradicted yourself in this statement. First, you seem positive that black Americans were involved in the bombing of Libya than you make the following statement,

      ” …and I’m sure those planes that bombed the crap out of that country had black people involved.”

      You’re not sure at all, are you?

      “And it was a black Obama that ordered the bombing.”

      You stated this out of anger. When you let your emotions get in the way of your rebuttal you lose your audience and no one will find you credible. So drop the arrogance!

      “Gandhi was a British subject at the time he was no different than the current state of black people in America . The difference is he played the game until the time was right to rebel against the power structure of the British Empire.”

      You’re showing your ignorance! Black Americans have been rebelling against the white American system since they were stolen from their motherland. The last major civil rights movement was in the 1960s. Have you not read about that one?

      “What he did to bring the British to their knees without violence is unprecedented.”

      No, it’s not! Black Americans and Black Canadians did the same thing. You are benefiting from it right now! You are benefiting from the blood, sweat, having water hoses sprayed on us, having dogs bite us, and tears.

      “The man took control of his country by getting people to not cooperate with the British Empire. By taking control of the revenue that normally went to British business and making sure that money stayed in Indian hands, kind of what black people are trying to do now”

      Have you ever heard of Black Wall Street? Look it up! Because you don’t have the slightest idea of what you are talking about. You are obviously ignorant of the plethora of black American history out there. Your comments are embarrassing!

      “If you are going to criticize gandhi for doing the same thing black people in American armed forces are currently doing today it seems hypocritical.”

      Why are you blaming black Americans in the armed forces? There are blacks, whites, Asians, Hispanics, Aboriginals, in the armed forces. It’s a collective effort. It’s not just black Americans in the armed forces wreaking havoc in Africa. This is an American issue! Your emotions are not allowing you to think clearly.

      “Gandhi didn’t kill one single black person…”

      Who said that he did?

      “A side note to the author of this book.”

      Why don’t you write to the author of this book as opposed to writing on this forum? The reporter is reporting and taking excerpts from the book.

      “India has a element in its borders that are a part of the corporate elite that want the gandhi legend gone.”

      Why?

      “The western forces that ruled that country prior to their independence have waited for a opportunity to get back in power. They have a corporate elite that’s using intellectual sellouts to do their bidding similar to what we have here in America. The fact that India has the spinning loom on its flag which is a symbol of the Indians resistance to British rule, still irritates the global elites.”

      This comment I certainly won’t doubt. It was logical, reasonable, and without emotion. It made sense.

      “Gandhi had the people of India make their own clothes so they would not have to buy British goods. The spinning loom is how they made the cloth.”

      What was your point in mentioning this?

      “We can take lessons from the gandhi Era and apply them to today’s struggle.”

      People are protesting peacefully to get their message across. However, there are infiltrators in the movement who are purposely causing trouble (i.e. inciting violence) to discredit the movement.

      “There is a war going on for your social conscious…”

      Ok, and…? The second part of your statement doesn’t go with the first part. These are two different ideas.

      “…and this is another example of creating controversial subjects without context.”

      What is “this”? Gandhi was a controversial subject, MLK was a controversial subject. Malcolm X was a controversial subject. They all shook up the system. They all got us to think. The government hates that as causes social unrest. However, the truth is the truth. Gandhi was a racist. This is a fact! I wrote a research paper on Gandhi and through my research I found out that Gandhi hated black people which I found ironic because in his book he talks about discriminatory treatment when he was on a train in South Africa.
      Why don’t you read the entire book before you dismiss what is being said. You talk about context. Read the book to get the full story. I recognize he is a beloved figure to some in India but he was not perfect. All of our great leaders had shady pasts.

      • Mario

        September 16, 2015 at 5:16 pm

        @Carol that was a fantastic reply to Rod. Very scholarly. I appreciate your thoughtful and intellectual observations and understanding of the historical context as well as the common sense factor.

        • T'shaka

          September 30, 2015 at 8:39 am

          “@Carol that was a fantastic reply to Rod”… Indeed! Reminiscent of exceptional scholarship presented by previous Generations. Wonderful Work.

      • Sandra Geeter

        September 16, 2015 at 9:18 pm

        That was an excellent rebuttal. I have a feeling that Rod is probably white, otherwise why would he refer to our president as being “black Obama.”

      • Barbara

        September 17, 2015 at 8:08 am

        Excellent post.

      • E. Saint

        September 17, 2015 at 9:28 am

        Everything else looks perfect with your post, except refusing to accept the fact that Black brothers in AmeriKKKa shouldn’t be involved in the military business. We would be better off having our own personal army to protect us inside and outside the system. When exactly are we going to realize that the only people that we were trained to kill as (confused) soldiers (’cause we’re not normal) are minority people in the Middle East, Africa, the Caribbean and South/Central America. We did WWII and we had to keep watching for German snipers as well as AmeriKKKan snipers. We did as much in Vietnam. Here in AmeriKKKa, White veteran soldiers are getting hired by the police to do away with you further.

        But I probably know why you would stand up for Obama and the military. All soldiers are under oath just like Freemasons. They swore to hide the evil crap that is happening on the inside.

      • Leatha J. Patton

        September 17, 2015 at 3:10 pm

        This is not my first time hearing about Gandhi hating black people. He was an East Indian! India is the country known for persecuting one group identified as the Untouchables. Why? Because they are crystal black! Secondly, who doesn’t hate black people? We as an African people globally engage in self-hatred. On the continent we bleach our skin and here in the States wear other people’s hair because of hatred for our own. Go figure.

      • Regina

        September 19, 2015 at 12:23 am

        @Carol, what you fail to realize is that Gandhi was not calling Africans/Blacks “kaffirs”. He was not above calling blacks the “N” word as well. Gandhi hated blacks/africans like G’d supposedly hate sin.

      • Clifton Reed

        September 20, 2015 at 6:34 am

        @ Carol, This was an excellent break down of this post, I thoroughly enjoyed reading it, well put. We should all learn to to only state the facts that are true and not say things that are pure speculation.

      • Robinhood

        September 28, 2015 at 6:33 am

        tht was a very thought provoking debate on Ghandi !

    • Billy Knows

      September 16, 2015 at 5:10 pm

      Excellent reply to this attempt to diminish the value and importance of the strength, wisdom and passion which was used to expel a tyrant from his home…
      Who published this book and why? Really?

    • Otim

      September 16, 2015 at 5:37 pm

      Thanks for a well written observation. I had six years to retire from the USAF and resigned after the Panama “Invasion”. The bulk of the people injuried were “Black People”. I determined, when I saw that, I would never bear arms or support any mission for the US, INC against my people, so I immediately resigned! Indians are some of the ‘blackes’t people on Earth, Read about the Dalit people of Southern India! Read how ‘black Ghandi’ treated them and how oppressed they are at this very moment! Dalit means ‘crushed and broken’. Now, let us go read! Peace

      • smith

        September 27, 2015 at 2:23 pm

        what you did required rel courage, we need more people like you, than you for setting an example.

      • Robinhood

        September 28, 2015 at 6:36 am

        I’m gonna read about the Dalit ppl. Thx

    • Chloe

      September 16, 2015 at 10:36 pm

      Gandhi’s accomplishments aren’t being called into question here…his methodologies and perceived values are. It is interesting how you chose to make your point at the expense of Black soldiers. When Black soldiers go on military campaigns in Africa at the behest of the corporate elite, are they petitioning to have better weaponry than their Hispanic or Asian brethren or trying to prop themselves up as superior to other minority groups in order to curry favor or gain an advantage? Probably not…but this is a more accurate comparison than the one you are attempting to make when you ask ‘how is it different. It is different because these Black soldiers are not being held up as examples of altruistic thinking and champions of equality for all oppressed people as Gandhi has been marketed to us in our history books. Again, I am curious as to why you chose to make the comparison to Black soldiers instead of historical figures whose ideology falls short of his/her historic textbook depiction, such as Margaret Sanger or Cecil Rhodes.

    • KHALIEF SUPREME

      September 18, 2015 at 6:43 am

      THANKS FOR MISSING THE POINT!

  2. MaryAnn

    September 16, 2015 at 2:47 pm

    Gandhi was a man of his time, place, and caste. I have no doubt about the factual evidence in this book, but, he was spot-on about the British Empire’s treatment of India and, when he finally engaged that particular issue, he found/developed strategies that brought the Empire to its knees! The techniques he used and the charisma with which he led the people I admire. The rest, especially the way he treated blacks, lower caste Indians, and women–hell no! It’s totally repugnant!

  3. Carol

    September 16, 2015 at 4:22 pm

    I wrote a paper on Ghandi when I was in university and found out about this during my research. So for me, this is not new information.

    • Celeste

      September 16, 2015 at 4:39 pm

      This is not new,I never knew how he was held as a role model for Black people.

    • Otim

      September 16, 2015 at 5:42 pm

      Have you embarked on a mission to share that knowledge with others?

    • KHALIEF SUPREME

      September 18, 2015 at 6:45 am

      THIS IS NOT NEW TO ME EITHER. I KNEW ABOUT HIS ROLE IN THE SOUTH AFRICAN ARMY FOR YEARS. TO BAD MANY SO-CALLLED PROFESSORS KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THIS.

  4. Jah Larry Dread

    September 16, 2015 at 4:35 pm

    How many black people from Africa or America lived in India at time of Ghandi was alive?

  5. mj

    September 16, 2015 at 4:38 pm

    Anyone who is educated knows this but black people are in such denial about the way these other races of people feel about them, it is sickening.

    • KHALIEF SUPREME

      September 18, 2015 at 6:46 am

      RIGHT ON!

  6. Jah Larry Dread

    September 16, 2015 at 4:47 pm

    How many black people from Africa or America lived in India during the time Ghandi was alive? Just because a person does not like you does not mean you cannot learn from him/her. My fifth grade WHITE wood shop teacher told our class, “I don’t like you colored boys and I can’t stand that bumming Cassius Clay! However, you come to class on time, keep your safety googles on when the power is on and do a good job. I will give you a fair grade.” I earned a “B” in his class. His son received a “C”. Its nice to be liked, however, I learned that it is better to respected for the work that you do. Black people need to stop looking for other to like them and learn to love and respect each other. Trust me people would really admire or like “US” if we valued education, started businesses, patronizes them and committed less crime toward each other.

    • June

      September 16, 2015 at 5:12 pm

      Jah Larry Dread you are a true fool and you are why this race is sinking. It is old fools like you that have brought this race to the brink of destruction. “Just because a person does not like you does not mean you cannot learn from him/her.” Too bad the education I and other black kids got from teachers with this mind frame set us further back then white children and other races of children taught in american schools.

      I went through 12 years of a public school system with your pathetic idealism in mind. They didn’t love me or like me but they wanted to teach me (but I actually knew they were there for a paycheck and they also were not considered good enough to teach in the school system their own children went to).

      In the end, my education just like so many other black children’s education was watered down and truly didn’t exist. We were black children eager to learn and didn’t give our teachers a hard time but we still came out with bad education. We did our homework etc. Why is it that we didn’t get an equal education?

      You see, you can’t hate people but respect them enough to educate them at the same time. I don’t care what they say, they will end up doing the opposite because that burning hatred drives them.

      Self Love means you will do for you instead of you trying to force others to do right by you. In essence, teach your self black people. And also equally important, stop over looking and making excuses about these other races true feelings towards you.

      • Jah Larry Dread

        September 17, 2015 at 4:30 pm

        Did you read everything I wrote? I believe not. I stated at the end:

        “Its nice to be liked, however, I learned that it is better to respected for the work that you do. Black people need to stop looking for other to like them and learn to love and respect each other. Trust me people would really admire or like “US” if we valued education, started businesses, patronizes them and committed less crime toward each other”.

        You (June) stated: “Self Love means you will do for you instead of you trying to force others to do right by you. In essence, teach your self black people”.

        Read my comments completely. Also, there is no need for name calling.

    • Tyrone Thomas

      September 16, 2015 at 7:00 pm

      Well said and so very true.

    • Tyrone Thomas

      September 16, 2015 at 7:00 pm

      Well said and so very true.

    • Davy de Verteuil

      September 16, 2015 at 10:12 pm

      There were Thousands of Africans in India during Gandhi’s time and they still live on the fringes just as The Slave owner British India left them. Only that they now speak Indian dialect/language

    • Deborah

      September 22, 2015 at 3:55 pm

      Jah,
      Some where in the context of your responses you believe that all African or black Americans live in the hood, the ghetto or the slums. I can speak for the hundreds of thousands blacks in America who are upward mobile and are successful and still very much black……The problems we face in america have not stopped us from progressing. Why the anger and hostility against your own people?

  7. rod

    September 16, 2015 at 4:51 pm

    Facts on gandhi and the caste system. In the early years of his life gandhi favored the caste system. I consider the four divisions to be fundamental, natural and essential, he said in 1920 and on October 6 1921 he wrote in young india, prohibition against intermarriage is essential for the rapid evolution of the soul. He reversed his views on caste dating and marrying outside of their caste by stating on November 4 1932, the caste system is weakening Hindu society. He says in 1921 caste was essential in 1932 debilitating. He stated he was too observant and flexible and honest to support the caste system that was systematically discriminating and fragmenting and corrupting Hindu society. To prove the point gandhi s youngest son married a woman outside of his caste. In subsequent years gandhi refused to attend any but inter caste marriages. Most of his clients in south Africa was so called untouchable s. When you take a period out of anyone’s life especially the period of a person’s youth you don’t get the whole story of that person. Gandhi evolved just like malcolm x evolved and changed his views . It’s a disservice to ridicule a young gandhi with out acknowledging the older wiser gandhi. This author of this book took a segment out of this man’s life and used this period to paint a untrue picture of the life of this man. I recommend you read Louis Fischer s book on gandhi or the autobiography of gandhi to get a truthful picture of the man. Internet click bait is not a way to find truth. Half truths is the world we live in , it takes effort to find the real truth.

    • Jah Larry Dread

      September 16, 2015 at 4:58 pm

      Well stated. I personally have not read much on Ghandi…However, I will read some material.

    • Rodney Leon

      September 16, 2015 at 5:31 pm

      Exactly what I was about to type. very well done. Context makes all the difference. You can take a slice of anybody ‘s life and have something to complain about, depending on your point of view.

    • Regina

      September 19, 2015 at 12:27 am

      @Rod,

      Gandhi was a Brahman. He was at the very top of the totem pole of the Hindu religion.

  8. mj

    September 16, 2015 at 4:56 pm

    Why when someone brings up the racism of other races against black, here is some sell out trying to change the subject. This has nothing to do with black on black crime or war. What-you think you can go to war and say well, that person is black, so I am not going to fight them? And the military is 99% white so what is your point. You don’t even have 10% of black people in the military.

    This is about Gandhi so take some ADD meds and quit trying to divert the topic and make excuses for his racism. He called African people the Hindi word for the N word and monkeys and all other derogatory names but you lost fools try to admire this man as a comrade.

    You poor lost souls. Trying to hitch your wagon on to any other race and form an alli and they can’t stand you. Trying to make excuses. Just ridiculous.

    • Jah Larry Dread

      September 16, 2015 at 5:05 pm

      Trust me MJ I don’t look at this man as a comrade; from what little I know of this man we (black people in the USA) can learn from him. I agree with rod on: “By taking control of the revenue that normally went to British business and making sure that money stayed in Indian hands, kind of what black people are trying to do now” and I am not even touching this military issue.

      I believe: Black people need to stop looking for other to like them and learn to love and respect each other. Trust me people would really admire or like “US” if we valued education, started businesses, patronizes them and committed less crime toward each other.

      • Deborah

        September 22, 2015 at 4:02 pm

        Jah
        why is it you are hell bent on saying we are looking for others to like us here in america. Apparently you don’t see your own people in a positive light. We have business’ and we have always been educated. You forget that way back when Africa had universities And these days we black americans value education and graduate in a system that has been set up for us to fail . Built we don’t we make it through to go on to get masters and phd’s. As a college librarian i can say out young people from all walks of life are entering in school and finishing in spite of the games people play when it comes to education……..lighten up take a look at those who have progressed you might learn something good about our people

  9. m a s

    September 16, 2015 at 5:09 pm

    i used to argue with my brothers about martin Luther king jr on how i didn’t like mlk jr because i did a report in junior high school about ghandi who i felt he was a racist and hated Africans and any one who would voluntarily follow someone who hates you is a traitor to his race and when you listen to mlk jr he says he fears he has led his people into a burning house. he,MLK jr., sold us out following ghandi, we became sissified and weak as a people. if i realized this when i was twelve, i wonder with all my self taught knowledge and how i don’t even follow the calendar any more, i wonder how lost the blacks of Africa that continue to live in america are that according to this article the editor is a jackass for this article of the man standing outside the mlk center in atl,ga.

    • mj

      September 16, 2015 at 5:24 pm

      MLK Jr. did use the role of non violence from this man and he like so many then and now were truly ignorant about who Gandhi truly was and how he felt.

      But m a s you had better thank MLK jr. and respect him because if he had not laid his life down and kicked off the civil rights movement, you would not be here typing this today.

      And you better believe he laid his life down. He knew if he kept preaching against racisim and trying to change the way things were, he would end up dead.

      He could have been like the majority, scared and willing to go through back doors only, stepping off the side walk when one of them walks down it, and not looking them in the eye to name a few as the norm.

      But thank God MLK jr. Said he was going to be a full man and he was going to not only fight for himself but for the rest of black people to have the full freedom of dignity and humanity. Even if it meant his life to make sure the world would change for his family and the rest of black people.

      His death ushered in a freedom for us we probably would have never known. You should quit throwing hatred at him and throw up a lot of love.

      • Barbara

        September 17, 2015 at 8:21 am

        I agree with you on MLK. He paid the ultimate price trying to help us.

      • smith

        September 27, 2015 at 2:28 pm

        mlk was not murdered for his civi rights stance, his stance on the american empire / imperialism is what got him murdered!!

  10. Eric

    September 16, 2015 at 5:16 pm

    This is not new informaiton. When I served in the Army, one of the Doctors “Dr. Singh”, actually was in the process of writing and getting his book published discussing Gandhi’s racist views towards Blacks. Mind you, this was back in 1999. From my understanding the book has since been published…….

  11. dee

    September 16, 2015 at 6:45 pm

    He was not talking about African Americans. He was talking about South Africans.

  12. Carolyn Marshall

    September 16, 2015 at 7:06 pm

    Gandhi hating black Africans was shown in the first few minutes of the Gandhi movie.

  13. Mattie

    September 16, 2015 at 9:20 pm

    who did Ghandi like? He didn’t even like his own wife.

    • Barbara

      September 17, 2015 at 8:24 am

      There was another book written about Ghandi’s homosexuality, and love relationship with this German man.

  14. rod

    September 16, 2015 at 10:13 pm

    What’s hilarious about some of the responses here is during the time line when this was alleged to occur during the early years of gandhi. Africans were killing each other with the help of western powers. I could understand if gandhi created a movement that said kill all black people but there is no black blood on this man’s hands. Unfortunately he had to grow up in a society that had a caste system. He had to change his point of view about the caste system as he grew wiser. He changed the system by setting the example of working with untouchable s and trying to ensure untouchables were accepted in Indian society. He took a lot of flak for this but he remained dedicated to the cause of eliminating the caste system from India. The western scholars are divided on gandhi because of the fear of his accomplishments of creating a two nations India and Pakistan out of the population of India from under British rule. They still are exploiting the two countries by supplying arms and hydrogen bombs to both countries. If they can slay the legacy of gandhi they can minimize descent in other revolutionary movements around the world. People forget that the non compliant demonstration was the brain child of gandhi and has been used around the world since he introduced in India. People forget how much money the British lost in India because of gandhi and his followers. People also forget that after what happened in India British colonies started to lose its grip on Africa and other countries under British rule. That is why gandhi legacy must be put into question to not be pasted on to another generation. Violent revolution in any Western country is a pipe dream. Let’s get real here. Black people aren’t going to burn down rich white people’s houses or business outside of the black community. I doubt Macy’s or Saks are worried that their stores are in any danger of being looted. Beverly Hills and the Hamptons are not going to burn neither is any gated community that service the rich. You know and I know as soon as the affluent belonging are in any way threatened action by local state and federal law enforcement will appear. So let’s not fool ourselves. Rhetoric from our own racism doesn’t cut it anymore. The false bravado of a uninformed and uneducated person seeking validation has been a crutch that’s been used to often. If there is one lesson black people should take from gandhi is the power of prolonged focus of the objective. To not waiver nor compromise to the powers that be. To not fill the coffers of the system that is oppressing you but sacrifice monetarily to bring about changes to that system. Forget being a consumer of their goods because every item you purchase any goods the revenue go directly into the very system you oppose. That’s the quandary how do you affect economic independence without hurting those working with in said system. You can say blacks have over a trillion in assets but if you shop at Wal mart, target or any store in the mall of your choice , you feed the beast. If you buy your food at Safeway or any large grocery store you feed the beast. If you attend our watch any sporting event on television you feed the beast. Airlines, gas company, transportation services, utilities you pay the beast each time you fork over your cash. It’s a vicious circle we live in and the only way I see you can even make a blip on the screen of charge is to focus on these issues I just outlined and find one area that can be exclusive to the cause of self determination, that a black person in Cleveland can utilize just like a black person in Compton can. I think if we supported black farms and bought more land in rural parts of our states and had black business people create a marketing plan that created black grocery outlets, that would make a dent in the revenue stream of the major grocery stores. It’s not that hard because that’s how our ancestors the slaves survived. Imagine community gardens and black farmers working together to get food to black owned grocery stores. We have to start with the basics and let go of the pie in the sky get rich quick non sense. If dr.dre instead of donating his money to a private university but bought land to be used for agriculture look at how many black lives would have been affected by his business decisions. We can do this, it is the legacy of gandhi that gives me confidence it can happen. We just need to change our priorities and focus on the simple.

    • Chloe

      September 17, 2015 at 2:46 am

      Again…no one is questioning the effectiveness of Gandhi’s economic strategy…but his ethics and racist mindset are the topic here. There is nothing ‘hilarious’ about the passionate responses of Black people to racism…no matter from whom/where it originates. It is something we have lived with and dealt with for centuries…and for Gandhi to be held before us as someone we should strive to emulate whilst he harbored a supremacist mindset, is troubling…and rightfully so. To your other points, there are many Black people who recognize the importance of building our own economic base in America and the patience, determination and unity it will take to get us there. Perhaps that is a lesson worth learning from Gandhi, but we can still have problems with Gandhi, the man. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad has been advocating economic self sufficiency since the ’30s. economicblueprint.org

  15. Mr I

    September 16, 2015 at 11:08 pm

    One thing I observed with all the comments on this top is that, the language we all used here is clean and very very educative and informative today. Is it because the topic at hand is historical and also an educational topic that makes it difficult for uneducated or half educated to stayed away from it there by making it possible for all the clean comments with no insults and stupid abbreviations that is normally full of this forum and I am loving it. I love it

    AS far as his a attitude towards people of African decent, I am not surprised at all this not new all, all I can say is we have to have that self love and self respect among ourselves as a people. stop looking for love on the outside
    All these people that are arriving in North America today and enjoying all this freedom, they don’t even know how this freedom came about and they don’t care they are here to reap the benefits that it.

    • Jah Larry Dread

      September 16, 2015 at 11:37 pm

      “All these people that are arriving in North America today and enjoying all this freedom, they don’t even know how this freedom came about and they don’t care they are here to reap the benefits that it”…So true!

      • smith

        September 27, 2015 at 2:29 pm

        yep so true

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  17. ericaf

    September 24, 2015 at 10:07 am

    The narrative for far too long about Africa has been it’s inhabited by savages, then the savages were taken throughout the world to be enslaved and when they finally became free they still had savage tendencies, hence the reason blacks are treated to this day the way we are. We are still, for the most part , not considered human. The darker our hue, we are less human

  18. ruyedzo

    September 25, 2015 at 4:24 am

    Most Indians have maintained their religion and language. Tell me of the black man’s religion. Don’t blacks grab other people’s religions and beliefs at the ‘drop of a hat’. If you have lost your language and religion what good are you. Some have gone to the extent of killing in the name of alien religions. Shame!

  19. Steven Even

    September 25, 2015 at 5:55 pm

    So what else is new? Name a race of people that doesn’t dislike black people!

  20. Wil May

    September 25, 2015 at 8:31 pm

    Some Indian in India are two shade blacker than a Crow. Often referred to as the untouchable,

  21. Carolyn B. Baker

    September 28, 2015 at 9:39 pm

    Delusional or mirrorless looks just like my uncle Bud

  22. truth teller

    October 3, 2015 at 9:23 am

    Lot”s of hatred posted here between the Blacks, only one way to resolve this,”go get yourself a pot of curry chicken” and be happy! If you be nice to one another, you will get watermelon for desert….now that is how you learn and blend both cultures……..post sponsored by KFC, POPEYES. CHURCH’S & other mass chicken murderers!

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